▲ 302 ▼ Joe Manchin vows ‘unrelenting fight’ against US climate law he helped pass (www.theguardian.com) submitted 2 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 42 comments fedilink hide all child comments Democratic West Virginia senator calls the Inflation Reduction Act, hailed as ‘biggest step on climate crisis’, a ‘radical agenda’
[–] Thatpilotguy89@lemm.ee 68 points 2 years ago (5 children) These politicians are not afraid of the people and thats a damn shame permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (2 children) Manchin actually is... He talks a big talk, but everytime a progressive like Bernie or Warren went down to WV to talk to his voters... Manchin stopped opposing his own party, but said it'll never work again. WV voters support most progressive policies, and when people explain Manchin is opposed to all the stuff his voters support, Manchin gets scared. Because all his promises to not run again are lies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Just look for a poll about what policies they support. If you ask them for a label they'll say conservative. But a poll that asks about specific policies will show they support progressive ones. If I linked a single poll, people would say I cherry picked or keep sea Lioning me for more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] evatronic@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago This is generally true of conservatives / GOP voters as a whole (though, of course, there are always exceptions). When you ask them about policies without words or phrases they have been taught to react to, they almost always support .. maybe not progressive ideas, but moderately liberal ones. When asked about healthcare, for instance, they react strongly against "Obamacare" and "ACA" and now, "individual mandate". But explain what the ACA does, and how it works, and how insurance companies have to spend certain percentage of their revenue on healthcare instead of profits, and conservatives love it. They don't get upset until they hear words or phrases the media has told them to get upset about. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I was ki da feeling like Did you post this from an iPhone? I feel like there's a bug in the dimensions of the touch target for the N key because I often end up with an errant space on that specific key. I've not filed a bug report because I'm not sure if it's just me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh that happens to me all the time permalink fedilink source parent [+] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Cool, thanks for hitting me back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Manchin stopped opposing his own party As though there was ever a time when he did. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago But he IS afraid of his constituents. That's why he's switching his positions, because he's afraid of being voted out next year permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's the opposite of what is happening here. He is afraid of his constituents in West Virginia. It's his electors that would rather see the world burn than lose their own inflated incomes. WV's economy is very tied to fossil fuels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Too bad there wasn’t some huge pool of spending allocated, that they could use to diversify their economy and energy sources. As the world flushes down fossil fuel companies, the pay seem determined to ride that wave permalink fedilink source parent [+] CaptainAniki@lemmy.flight-crew.org 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Then fix it for us. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (2 children) Manchin actually is... He talks a big talk, but everytime a progressive like Bernie or Warren went down to WV to talk to his voters... Manchin stopped opposing his own party, but said it'll never work again. WV voters support most progressive policies, and when people explain Manchin is opposed to all the stuff his voters support, Manchin gets scared. Because all his promises to not run again are lies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Just look for a poll about what policies they support. If you ask them for a label they'll say conservative. But a poll that asks about specific policies will show they support progressive ones. If I linked a single poll, people would say I cherry picked or keep sea Lioning me for more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] evatronic@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago This is generally true of conservatives / GOP voters as a whole (though, of course, there are always exceptions). When you ask them about policies without words or phrases they have been taught to react to, they almost always support .. maybe not progressive ideas, but moderately liberal ones. When asked about healthcare, for instance, they react strongly against "Obamacare" and "ACA" and now, "individual mandate". But explain what the ACA does, and how it works, and how insurance companies have to spend certain percentage of their revenue on healthcare instead of profits, and conservatives love it. They don't get upset until they hear words or phrases the media has told them to get upset about. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I was ki da feeling like Did you post this from an iPhone? I feel like there's a bug in the dimensions of the touch target for the N key because I often end up with an errant space on that specific key. I've not filed a bug report because I'm not sure if it's just me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh that happens to me all the time permalink fedilink source parent [+] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Cool, thanks for hitting me back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Manchin stopped opposing his own party As though there was ever a time when he did. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Just look for a poll about what policies they support. If you ask them for a label they'll say conservative. But a poll that asks about specific policies will show they support progressive ones. If I linked a single poll, people would say I cherry picked or keep sea Lioning me for more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] evatronic@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago This is generally true of conservatives / GOP voters as a whole (though, of course, there are always exceptions). When you ask them about policies without words or phrases they have been taught to react to, they almost always support .. maybe not progressive ideas, but moderately liberal ones. When asked about healthcare, for instance, they react strongly against "Obamacare" and "ACA" and now, "individual mandate". But explain what the ACA does, and how it works, and how insurance companies have to spend certain percentage of their revenue on healthcare instead of profits, and conservatives love it. They don't get upset until they hear words or phrases the media has told them to get upset about. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I was ki da feeling like Did you post this from an iPhone? I feel like there's a bug in the dimensions of the touch target for the N key because I often end up with an errant space on that specific key. I've not filed a bug report because I'm not sure if it's just me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh that happens to me all the time permalink fedilink source parent [+] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Cool, thanks for hitting me back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Just look for a poll about what policies they support. If you ask them for a label they'll say conservative. But a poll that asks about specific policies will show they support progressive ones. If I linked a single poll, people would say I cherry picked or keep sea Lioning me for more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] evatronic@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago This is generally true of conservatives / GOP voters as a whole (though, of course, there are always exceptions). When you ask them about policies without words or phrases they have been taught to react to, they almost always support .. maybe not progressive ideas, but moderately liberal ones. When asked about healthcare, for instance, they react strongly against "Obamacare" and "ACA" and now, "individual mandate". But explain what the ACA does, and how it works, and how insurance companies have to spend certain percentage of their revenue on healthcare instead of profits, and conservatives love it. They don't get upset until they hear words or phrases the media has told them to get upset about. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago This is generally true of conservatives / GOP voters as a whole (though, of course, there are always exceptions). When you ask them about policies without words or phrases they have been taught to react to, they almost always support .. maybe not progressive ideas, but moderately liberal ones. When asked about healthcare, for instance, they react strongly against "Obamacare" and "ACA" and now, "individual mandate". But explain what the ACA does, and how it works, and how insurance companies have to spend certain percentage of their revenue on healthcare instead of profits, and conservatives love it. They don't get upset until they hear words or phrases the media has told them to get upset about. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I was ki da feeling like Did you post this from an iPhone? I feel like there's a bug in the dimensions of the touch target for the N key because I often end up with an errant space on that specific key. I've not filed a bug report because I'm not sure if it's just me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh that happens to me all the time permalink fedilink source parent [+] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Cool, thanks for hitting me back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh that happens to me all the time permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Cool, thanks for hitting me back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Cool, thanks for hitting me back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Manchin stopped opposing his own party As though there was ever a time when he did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago But he IS afraid of his constituents. That's why he's switching his positions, because he's afraid of being voted out next year permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's the opposite of what is happening here. He is afraid of his constituents in West Virginia. It's his electors that would rather see the world burn than lose their own inflated incomes. WV's economy is very tied to fossil fuels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Too bad there wasn’t some huge pool of spending allocated, that they could use to diversify their economy and energy sources. As the world flushes down fossil fuel companies, the pay seem determined to ride that wave permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Too bad there wasn’t some huge pool of spending allocated, that they could use to diversify their economy and energy sources. As the world flushes down fossil fuel companies, the pay seem determined to ride that wave permalink fedilink source parent
[+] CaptainAniki@lemmy.flight-crew.org 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Then fix it for us. permalink fedilink source parent