▲ 181 ▼ Valve fixes Remote Play on Steam Deck (www.gamingonlinux.com) submitted 2 years ago by Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz [M] to c/steamdeck@sopuli.xyz 28 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (4 children) Does Sunshine/Moonlight still blow Steam Remote Play out of the water or does this bring them up to par? permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz [S] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) My understanding is that sunshine/moonlight has better quality still. The built-in steam game streaming has better steam UI integration though, and is available without installing any additional software. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've used both to play Helldivers 2 recently and have found Sunshine/moonlight to be superior. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just curious, when you do this in HD2, how do you use the mic? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) So far, I don't. It doesn't have a hot key configured by default and I just haven't changed it. I tried to assign the rear paddles, but it didn't pick it up because I think the game was emulating an Xbox controller. But I only really do level 5/6 missions on the deck. I find it a bit too unfamiliar for 7+ missions where I need to communicate well and pull off my shots with better accuracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago Basically the same situation here fellow Helldiver, thank you for the confirmation. Now lets get back to the front lines!! permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Oh no doubt, Steam Link is super easy to use. Once quality catches up it seriously might become the Stream Deck by default at home. permalink fedilink source parent [–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) What specifically is better? These are just clients for the Streaming that Steam provides, right? They don’t actually swap out the “server” side, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cttttt@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) They're completely different implementations of systems that steam video/audio/inputs. Valve's is pretty buggy but has deep integration with Steam and allow NAT traversal, while Sunshine/Moonlight are way more reliable, have features that reduce latency but are pretty barebones as far as features: they just do streaming with no tight integration with what's being streamed. And Sunshine is a reverse engineered version of Nvidia's game stream server, since Nvidia sunset Gamestream a few months ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Since Sunshine & Moonlight are open source, I wonder if Valve has considered integrating them. Based on their track record, Valve would likely submit improvements upstream too permalink fedilink source parent [–] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago Moonlight is Nvidia game stream so it'll be using the Nvidia server or sunshine which implements the Nvidia game stream protocol for AMD/Intel/Nvidia server hardware. permalink fedilink source parent [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] fishbone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I only know it as moonlight (been a while since I used it). What's the Sunshine component? As an aside, Moonlight was incredible. Used it to play PSO2 on my phone when I was a few hundred miles away visiting a friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Moonlight client originally used Nvidia's streaming server. Sunshine is an open source streaming server that moonlight can connect to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fishbone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh, fuck yeah. I remember it using nvidia shield, and I haven't bothered with seeing if it works outside of geforce since I dropped that (fuck geforce lol). Glad to hear there's an open source alternative. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago It works well! I'm actually using the moonlight client for Xbox so I can play on the couch and it's great. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz [S] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) My understanding is that sunshine/moonlight has better quality still. The built-in steam game streaming has better steam UI integration though, and is available without installing any additional software. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've used both to play Helldivers 2 recently and have found Sunshine/moonlight to be superior. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just curious, when you do this in HD2, how do you use the mic? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) So far, I don't. It doesn't have a hot key configured by default and I just haven't changed it. I tried to assign the rear paddles, but it didn't pick it up because I think the game was emulating an Xbox controller. But I only really do level 5/6 missions on the deck. I find it a bit too unfamiliar for 7+ missions where I need to communicate well and pull off my shots with better accuracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago Basically the same situation here fellow Helldiver, thank you for the confirmation. Now lets get back to the front lines!! permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Oh no doubt, Steam Link is super easy to use. Once quality catches up it seriously might become the Stream Deck by default at home. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've used both to play Helldivers 2 recently and have found Sunshine/moonlight to be superior. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just curious, when you do this in HD2, how do you use the mic? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) So far, I don't. It doesn't have a hot key configured by default and I just haven't changed it. I tried to assign the rear paddles, but it didn't pick it up because I think the game was emulating an Xbox controller. But I only really do level 5/6 missions on the deck. I find it a bit too unfamiliar for 7+ missions where I need to communicate well and pull off my shots with better accuracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago Basically the same situation here fellow Helldiver, thank you for the confirmation. Now lets get back to the front lines!! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just curious, when you do this in HD2, how do you use the mic? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) So far, I don't. It doesn't have a hot key configured by default and I just haven't changed it. I tried to assign the rear paddles, but it didn't pick it up because I think the game was emulating an Xbox controller. But I only really do level 5/6 missions on the deck. I find it a bit too unfamiliar for 7+ missions where I need to communicate well and pull off my shots with better accuracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago Basically the same situation here fellow Helldiver, thank you for the confirmation. Now lets get back to the front lines!! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) So far, I don't. It doesn't have a hot key configured by default and I just haven't changed it. I tried to assign the rear paddles, but it didn't pick it up because I think the game was emulating an Xbox controller. But I only really do level 5/6 missions on the deck. I find it a bit too unfamiliar for 7+ missions where I need to communicate well and pull off my shots with better accuracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago Basically the same situation here fellow Helldiver, thank you for the confirmation. Now lets get back to the front lines!! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago Basically the same situation here fellow Helldiver, thank you for the confirmation. Now lets get back to the front lines!! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Oh no doubt, Steam Link is super easy to use. Once quality catches up it seriously might become the Stream Deck by default at home. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) What specifically is better? These are just clients for the Streaming that Steam provides, right? They don’t actually swap out the “server” side, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cttttt@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) They're completely different implementations of systems that steam video/audio/inputs. Valve's is pretty buggy but has deep integration with Steam and allow NAT traversal, while Sunshine/Moonlight are way more reliable, have features that reduce latency but are pretty barebones as far as features: they just do streaming with no tight integration with what's being streamed. And Sunshine is a reverse engineered version of Nvidia's game stream server, since Nvidia sunset Gamestream a few months ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Since Sunshine & Moonlight are open source, I wonder if Valve has considered integrating them. Based on their track record, Valve would likely submit improvements upstream too permalink fedilink source parent [–] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago Moonlight is Nvidia game stream so it'll be using the Nvidia server or sunshine which implements the Nvidia game stream protocol for AMD/Intel/Nvidia server hardware. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cttttt@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) They're completely different implementations of systems that steam video/audio/inputs. Valve's is pretty buggy but has deep integration with Steam and allow NAT traversal, while Sunshine/Moonlight are way more reliable, have features that reduce latency but are pretty barebones as far as features: they just do streaming with no tight integration with what's being streamed. And Sunshine is a reverse engineered version of Nvidia's game stream server, since Nvidia sunset Gamestream a few months ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Since Sunshine & Moonlight are open source, I wonder if Valve has considered integrating them. Based on their track record, Valve would likely submit improvements upstream too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Since Sunshine & Moonlight are open source, I wonder if Valve has considered integrating them. Based on their track record, Valve would likely submit improvements upstream too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago Moonlight is Nvidia game stream so it'll be using the Nvidia server or sunshine which implements the Nvidia game stream protocol for AMD/Intel/Nvidia server hardware. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fishbone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I only know it as moonlight (been a while since I used it). What's the Sunshine component? As an aside, Moonlight was incredible. Used it to play PSO2 on my phone when I was a few hundred miles away visiting a friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Moonlight client originally used Nvidia's streaming server. Sunshine is an open source streaming server that moonlight can connect to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fishbone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh, fuck yeah. I remember it using nvidia shield, and I haven't bothered with seeing if it works outside of geforce since I dropped that (fuck geforce lol). Glad to hear there's an open source alternative. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago It works well! I'm actually using the moonlight client for Xbox so I can play on the couch and it's great. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Moonlight client originally used Nvidia's streaming server. Sunshine is an open source streaming server that moonlight can connect to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fishbone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh, fuck yeah. I remember it using nvidia shield, and I haven't bothered with seeing if it works outside of geforce since I dropped that (fuck geforce lol). Glad to hear there's an open source alternative. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago It works well! I'm actually using the moonlight client for Xbox so I can play on the couch and it's great. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fishbone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh, fuck yeah. I remember it using nvidia shield, and I haven't bothered with seeing if it works outside of geforce since I dropped that (fuck geforce lol). Glad to hear there's an open source alternative. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago It works well! I'm actually using the moonlight client for Xbox so I can play on the couch and it's great. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago It works well! I'm actually using the moonlight client for Xbox so I can play on the couch and it's great. permalink fedilink source parent