▲ 180 ▼ Israel-Hamas war has now killed at least 30,000 Palestinians, most of them civilians (www.nbcnews.com) submitted 2 years ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 14 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] sugarfree@lemmy.world -21 points 2 years ago (2 children) Hamas clearly needs to unconditionally surrender, they need to do the right thing for their people. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) There is no "their people" there hasn't been any kind of election since 2006 where Hamas won minority control of Gaza. A year later they cemented control by arresting, killing or expelling opposition politicians. Hamas has always been a militant group not a political party. The leadership of Hamas doesn't live in Gaza and doesn't care about civilians. As for the Israeli government, Netanyahu seems to prefer hardliners in control as this lets him have an excuse to take a much more hard line approach to use of force in Gaza. There is no one looking out for or caring about the Palestinian people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sugarfree@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Steve@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I kinda doubt Israel would accept their surrender permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sugarfree@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why? Israel doesn't want war, they just want to live in peace. If Hamas is willing to surrender, I am certain Israel would accept it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Actually they want the Palestinians gone and land control, so if Hamas surrenders, it wouldn't bring back Gaza or even change the situation much at this point. They spent this entire time taking land in the west bank despite it having nothing to do with Gaza nor even geographically connected. So that right there sums up their goals. Israel is the dominating military force, if they wanted to, they could have easily dismantled Hamas years ago, especially considering they are the ones who supported its creation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) There is no "their people" there hasn't been any kind of election since 2006 where Hamas won minority control of Gaza. A year later they cemented control by arresting, killing or expelling opposition politicians. Hamas has always been a militant group not a political party. The leadership of Hamas doesn't live in Gaza and doesn't care about civilians. As for the Israeli government, Netanyahu seems to prefer hardliners in control as this lets him have an excuse to take a much more hard line approach to use of force in Gaza. There is no one looking out for or caring about the Palestinian people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sugarfree@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I kinda doubt Israel would accept their surrender permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sugarfree@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why? Israel doesn't want war, they just want to live in peace. If Hamas is willing to surrender, I am certain Israel would accept it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Actually they want the Palestinians gone and land control, so if Hamas surrenders, it wouldn't bring back Gaza or even change the situation much at this point. They spent this entire time taking land in the west bank despite it having nothing to do with Gaza nor even geographically connected. So that right there sums up their goals. Israel is the dominating military force, if they wanted to, they could have easily dismantled Hamas years ago, especially considering they are the ones who supported its creation. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] sugarfree@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why? Israel doesn't want war, they just want to live in peace. If Hamas is willing to surrender, I am certain Israel would accept it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Actually they want the Palestinians gone and land control, so if Hamas surrenders, it wouldn't bring back Gaza or even change the situation much at this point. They spent this entire time taking land in the west bank despite it having nothing to do with Gaza nor even geographically connected. So that right there sums up their goals. Israel is the dominating military force, if they wanted to, they could have easily dismantled Hamas years ago, especially considering they are the ones who supported its creation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Actually they want the Palestinians gone and land control, so if Hamas surrenders, it wouldn't bring back Gaza or even change the situation much at this point. They spent this entire time taking land in the west bank despite it having nothing to do with Gaza nor even geographically connected. So that right there sums up their goals. Israel is the dominating military force, if they wanted to, they could have easily dismantled Hamas years ago, especially considering they are the ones who supported its creation. permalink fedilink source parent