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[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) My main contact with communism is that I was born and raised in a communist country. Communism IS a 100% authoritarian regime. Allways was, allways will be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That’s interesting, which country? I’d be willing to bet that the government does not actually describe itself as communist, but instead as a Marxist-Leninist socialist government, because even they know that what they do is not communism. I’m willing to bet that because most (if not all) “communist” states in the world actually describe themselves as socialist, not communist, following Marxism-Leninism or some variation thereof. As far as I know, all of them do. So, which one are you from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) USSR. All these lefty regimes are 100% totalitarian. The whole premise of Marxism and variations is to remove individual rights and freedoms. It doesn't matter how you spin it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The whole premise of Marxism and variations is to remove individual rights and freedoms. Question: have you ever read the Communist Manifesto? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I read Marx manifesto, yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But it is apparent from any reading of the Communist Manifesto that the premise of Marxism is not to remove individual rights and freedoms, regardless of how you think it works out in practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Marx literally calls for removal of rights and freedoms and openly calls for a genocide. Did YOU read his manifesto? One must be blind or delusional to think otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Marx literally calls for removal of rights and freedoms and openly calls for a genocide. I'm sure you can quote that and show me where my memory is lacking, then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Read the Manifesto? Go refresh your memory. permalink fedilink source parent [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) USSR Yeah, this is precisely the kind of state I was talking about. Thanks for confirming. I’ve explained twice in responses to you, and you haven’t actually addressed my points, so maybe you don’t understand what I’m saying. The whole premise of Marxism and variations is to remove individual rights and freedoms If you think Marxism-Leninism actually represents what Marx laid out as communism, you are mistaken. Marxism-Leninism was just Stalin-branded autocratic socialism—Marx had no say in the name. Neither did Lenin, for that matter, unless I’m forgetting my history. This, again, is precisely what I was talking about. It doesn’t matter how you spin it I think you should go back and read my original comment and see that the whole point was to unravel the actual spin in this image. No matter how you spin it, this meme places an unwarranted amount of blame on Western leftists while describing each label inaccurately and with a traditionally right-wing slant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just read the fucking manifesto already! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I’m not even a communist, but I have, actually, and you clearly haven’t. Doesn’t take much to understand the philosophy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, philosophy of genocide and oppression. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You can repeat yourself all you want, but unless you can make an actual argument you kinda just look like an idiot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's no point arguing with supporters of oppression and genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Who!? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That’s interesting, which country? I’d be willing to bet that the government does not actually describe itself as communist, but instead as a Marxist-Leninist socialist government, because even they know that what they do is not communism. I’m willing to bet that because most (if not all) “communist” states in the world actually describe themselves as socialist, not communist, following Marxism-Leninism or some variation thereof. As far as I know, all of them do. So, which one are you from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) USSR. All these lefty regimes are 100% totalitarian. The whole premise of Marxism and variations is to remove individual rights and freedoms. It doesn't matter how you spin it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The whole premise of Marxism and variations is to remove individual rights and freedoms. Question: have you ever read the Communist Manifesto? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I read Marx manifesto, yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But it is apparent from any reading of the Communist Manifesto that the premise of Marxism is not to remove individual rights and freedoms, regardless of how you think it works out in practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Marx literally calls for removal of rights and freedoms and openly calls for a genocide. Did YOU read his manifesto? One must be blind or delusional to think otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Marx literally calls for removal of rights and freedoms and openly calls for a genocide. I'm sure you can quote that and show me where my memory is lacking, then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Read the Manifesto? Go refresh your memory. permalink fedilink source parent [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) USSR Yeah, this is precisely the kind of state I was talking about. Thanks for confirming. I’ve explained twice in responses to you, and you haven’t actually addressed my points, so maybe you don’t understand what I’m saying. The whole premise of Marxism and variations is to remove individual rights and freedoms If you think Marxism-Leninism actually represents what Marx laid out as communism, you are mistaken. Marxism-Leninism was just Stalin-branded autocratic socialism—Marx had no say in the name. Neither did Lenin, for that matter, unless I’m forgetting my history. This, again, is precisely what I was talking about. It doesn’t matter how you spin it I think you should go back and read my original comment and see that the whole point was to unravel the actual spin in this image. No matter how you spin it, this meme places an unwarranted amount of blame on Western leftists while describing each label inaccurately and with a traditionally right-wing slant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just read the fucking manifesto already! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I’m not even a communist, but I have, actually, and you clearly haven’t. Doesn’t take much to understand the philosophy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, philosophy of genocide and oppression. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You can repeat yourself all you want, but unless you can make an actual argument you kinda just look like an idiot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's no point arguing with supporters of oppression and genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Who!? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) USSR. All these lefty regimes are 100% totalitarian. The whole premise of Marxism and variations is to remove individual rights and freedoms. It doesn't matter how you spin it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The whole premise of Marxism and variations is to remove individual rights and freedoms. Question: have you ever read the Communist Manifesto? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I read Marx manifesto, yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But it is apparent from any reading of the Communist Manifesto that the premise of Marxism is not to remove individual rights and freedoms, regardless of how you think it works out in practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Marx literally calls for removal of rights and freedoms and openly calls for a genocide. Did YOU read his manifesto? One must be blind or delusional to think otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Marx literally calls for removal of rights and freedoms and openly calls for a genocide. I'm sure you can quote that and show me where my memory is lacking, then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Read the Manifesto? Go refresh your memory. permalink fedilink source parent [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) USSR Yeah, this is precisely the kind of state I was talking about. Thanks for confirming. I’ve explained twice in responses to you, and you haven’t actually addressed my points, so maybe you don’t understand what I’m saying. The whole premise of Marxism and variations is to remove individual rights and freedoms If you think Marxism-Leninism actually represents what Marx laid out as communism, you are mistaken. Marxism-Leninism was just Stalin-branded autocratic socialism—Marx had no say in the name. Neither did Lenin, for that matter, unless I’m forgetting my history. This, again, is precisely what I was talking about. It doesn’t matter how you spin it I think you should go back and read my original comment and see that the whole point was to unravel the actual spin in this image. No matter how you spin it, this meme places an unwarranted amount of blame on Western leftists while describing each label inaccurately and with a traditionally right-wing slant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just read the fucking manifesto already! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I’m not even a communist, but I have, actually, and you clearly haven’t. Doesn’t take much to understand the philosophy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, philosophy of genocide and oppression. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You can repeat yourself all you want, but unless you can make an actual argument you kinda just look like an idiot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's no point arguing with supporters of oppression and genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Who!? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The whole premise of Marxism and variations is to remove individual rights and freedoms. Question: have you ever read the Communist Manifesto? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I read Marx manifesto, yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But it is apparent from any reading of the Communist Manifesto that the premise of Marxism is not to remove individual rights and freedoms, regardless of how you think it works out in practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Marx literally calls for removal of rights and freedoms and openly calls for a genocide. Did YOU read his manifesto? One must be blind or delusional to think otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Marx literally calls for removal of rights and freedoms and openly calls for a genocide. I'm sure you can quote that and show me where my memory is lacking, then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Read the Manifesto? Go refresh your memory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I read Marx manifesto, yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But it is apparent from any reading of the Communist Manifesto that the premise of Marxism is not to remove individual rights and freedoms, regardless of how you think it works out in practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Marx literally calls for removal of rights and freedoms and openly calls for a genocide. Did YOU read his manifesto? One must be blind or delusional to think otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Marx literally calls for removal of rights and freedoms and openly calls for a genocide. I'm sure you can quote that and show me where my memory is lacking, then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Read the Manifesto? Go refresh your memory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But it is apparent from any reading of the Communist Manifesto that the premise of Marxism is not to remove individual rights and freedoms, regardless of how you think it works out in practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Marx literally calls for removal of rights and freedoms and openly calls for a genocide. Did YOU read his manifesto? One must be blind or delusional to think otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Marx literally calls for removal of rights and freedoms and openly calls for a genocide. I'm sure you can quote that and show me where my memory is lacking, then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Read the Manifesto? Go refresh your memory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Marx literally calls for removal of rights and freedoms and openly calls for a genocide. Did YOU read his manifesto? One must be blind or delusional to think otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Marx literally calls for removal of rights and freedoms and openly calls for a genocide. I'm sure you can quote that and show me where my memory is lacking, then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Read the Manifesto? Go refresh your memory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Marx literally calls for removal of rights and freedoms and openly calls for a genocide. I'm sure you can quote that and show me where my memory is lacking, then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Read the Manifesto? Go refresh your memory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Read the Manifesto? Go refresh your memory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] keegomatic@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) USSR Yeah, this is precisely the kind of state I was talking about. Thanks for confirming. I’ve explained twice in responses to you, and you haven’t actually addressed my points, so maybe you don’t understand what I’m saying. The whole premise of Marxism and variations is to remove individual rights and freedoms If you think Marxism-Leninism actually represents what Marx laid out as communism, you are mistaken. Marxism-Leninism was just Stalin-branded autocratic socialism—Marx had no say in the name. Neither did Lenin, for that matter, unless I’m forgetting my history. This, again, is precisely what I was talking about. It doesn’t matter how you spin it I think you should go back and read my original comment and see that the whole point was to unravel the actual spin in this image. No matter how you spin it, this meme places an unwarranted amount of blame on Western leftists while describing each label inaccurately and with a traditionally right-wing slant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just read the fucking manifesto already! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I’m not even a communist, but I have, actually, and you clearly haven’t. Doesn’t take much to understand the philosophy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, philosophy of genocide and oppression. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You can repeat yourself all you want, but unless you can make an actual argument you kinda just look like an idiot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's no point arguing with supporters of oppression and genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Who!? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just read the fucking manifesto already! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I’m not even a communist, but I have, actually, and you clearly haven’t. Doesn’t take much to understand the philosophy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, philosophy of genocide and oppression. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You can repeat yourself all you want, but unless you can make an actual argument you kinda just look like an idiot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's no point arguing with supporters of oppression and genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Who!? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I’m not even a communist, but I have, actually, and you clearly haven’t. Doesn’t take much to understand the philosophy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, philosophy of genocide and oppression. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You can repeat yourself all you want, but unless you can make an actual argument you kinda just look like an idiot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's no point arguing with supporters of oppression and genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Who!? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, philosophy of genocide and oppression. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You can repeat yourself all you want, but unless you can make an actual argument you kinda just look like an idiot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's no point arguing with supporters of oppression and genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Who!? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You can repeat yourself all you want, but unless you can make an actual argument you kinda just look like an idiot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's no point arguing with supporters of oppression and genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Who!? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's no point arguing with supporters of oppression and genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keegomatic@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Who!? permalink fedilink source parent