▲ 1023 ▼ ‘It will be the end of democracy’: Bernie Sanders on what happens if Trump wins – and how to stop him (www.theguardian.com) submitted 2 years ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 322 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Socsa@sh.itjust.works -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) You lost your reproductive rights because a bunch of Sanders bros decided they'd rather let Trump win than vote for Hillary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I see this opinion a lot, but I honestly don't think Sanders or his campaign were to blame. She lost far more centrist votes than she did left-wing votes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* I mean I still literally see tons of people on the internet who are salty about it and openly use 2016 as an excuse to not vote for Democrats. Granted, a portion of these people were trolls then and are trolls now, but the sentiment is too common to dismiss. And whether or not it is true, it should still be a cautionary tale in pragmatism. I personally voted (and volunteered) for Bernie, but then fought for Clinton because it was plainly obvious what was on the line. I just wish more people had fought for Roe, if not for Clinton at that time, instead of waiting for the obvious outcome to get engaged. And it makes me see red to think that we are about to walk right into the exact same, easily preventable trap permalink fedilink source parent [–] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Am I the only one that remembers the DNC was sued over that...and Sanders won? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Over what exactly? The only lawsuit the Sanders campaign filed was over a misunderstanding over how a DNC voter database was configured. Both candidates had access to the same modeling and turnout software, and the Sanders campaign was mistakenly able to access data and models Clinton had generated because the system was not configured correctly. He sued when that mistake was corrected, but quickly dropped the suit when the issue was clarified. The lawsuit against Wasserman-Shultz was from a voter group, and it was dismissed. Maybe I'm missing one though. Can you jog my memory? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I see this opinion a lot, but I honestly don't think Sanders or his campaign were to blame. She lost far more centrist votes than she did left-wing votes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* I mean I still literally see tons of people on the internet who are salty about it and openly use 2016 as an excuse to not vote for Democrats. Granted, a portion of these people were trolls then and are trolls now, but the sentiment is too common to dismiss. And whether or not it is true, it should still be a cautionary tale in pragmatism. I personally voted (and volunteered) for Bernie, but then fought for Clinton because it was plainly obvious what was on the line. I just wish more people had fought for Roe, if not for Clinton at that time, instead of waiting for the obvious outcome to get engaged. And it makes me see red to think that we are about to walk right into the exact same, easily preventable trap permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* I mean I still literally see tons of people on the internet who are salty about it and openly use 2016 as an excuse to not vote for Democrats. Granted, a portion of these people were trolls then and are trolls now, but the sentiment is too common to dismiss. And whether or not it is true, it should still be a cautionary tale in pragmatism. I personally voted (and volunteered) for Bernie, but then fought for Clinton because it was plainly obvious what was on the line. I just wish more people had fought for Roe, if not for Clinton at that time, instead of waiting for the obvious outcome to get engaged. And it makes me see red to think that we are about to walk right into the exact same, easily preventable trap permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Am I the only one that remembers the DNC was sued over that...and Sanders won? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Over what exactly? The only lawsuit the Sanders campaign filed was over a misunderstanding over how a DNC voter database was configured. Both candidates had access to the same modeling and turnout software, and the Sanders campaign was mistakenly able to access data and models Clinton had generated because the system was not configured correctly. He sued when that mistake was corrected, but quickly dropped the suit when the issue was clarified. The lawsuit against Wasserman-Shultz was from a voter group, and it was dismissed. Maybe I'm missing one though. Can you jog my memory? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago Over what exactly? The only lawsuit the Sanders campaign filed was over a misunderstanding over how a DNC voter database was configured. Both candidates had access to the same modeling and turnout software, and the Sanders campaign was mistakenly able to access data and models Clinton had generated because the system was not configured correctly. He sued when that mistake was corrected, but quickly dropped the suit when the issue was clarified. The lawsuit against Wasserman-Shultz was from a voter group, and it was dismissed. Maybe I'm missing one though. Can you jog my memory? permalink fedilink source parent