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‘It will be the end of democracy’: Bernie Sanders on what happens if Trump wins – and how to stop him (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

It's not fear, it's that no one wants to read the same half assed logic that boils down to actively supporting efforts of conservatives to put Trump back in power. This shit strategy is getting old.

The winner of the 2024 general election for POTUS will be Donald Trump or Joe Biden. In a FPTP system any eligible vote not cast for Joe Biden is supporting Donald Trump, a member of the minority party. This is math. You are going to support one of these candidates if you're eligible to vote. It is mathematically impossible to sit out and not have influence.

Not a single one of the commenters trying to depress Democratic votes has provided a single alternative argument to these facts. It's not a real argument. It's just trying to create apathy so conservatives can gain more power.

You can talk about Democratic principles all day long, voting is a strategic play. And if you were actually trying to defend Democratic principles you would take the action that results in the least harm, which is Joe Biden, not Donald Trump.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You are discussing strategy to avoid the most harm. Harm avoidance. That's fear. You are literally describing fear without using the word fear and acting like I was the one misunderstanding. You need to understand that you are acting on fear. It's ridiculous, and I was right to point it out.

    You mentioned my other comment in passing like it meant nothing to you, then say that no one hear has given any real arguments? Maybe you just need to read in better faith. You clearly don't have any respect for my concerns with Biden if your comment demonstrates a complete unwillingness to even entertain the thought.

    Canadian btw, you don't need to convince of anything to do with voting strategy anyway. Wasted energy. I just think you guys are being really silly and can't see the forest from the trees. You could probably use third party observers to get your heads on straight.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Zero interest in trying to convince you of anything. I just want everyone else to understand that listening to you acts against their own interests. Either you don't understand how our electoral system works, or you're misleading people to try and put your thumb on the scale in support of some pretty horrible people.

    Waiting anytime for an explanation of how Trump getting elected benefits the situation in Gaza btw. Or do we not care about that now because that would be acting out of fear?

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