▲ 1023 ▼ ‘It will be the end of democracy’: Bernie Sanders on what happens if Trump wins – and how to stop him (www.theguardian.com) submitted 2 years ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 322 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (2 children) Biden locked in Trump’s $2T tax cuts for the rich and corporations, bringing the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%. Nuance glossed over for the sake of partisan shit-flinging: He proposed over $3.5 trillion in new taxes, including raising the corporate rate to 28% from 21% and returning the top individual rate to 39.6% from 37% and taxing capital gains at those rates for Americans earning over $1 million. He promised no increases for those earning under $400,000 a year. But opposition from Republicans and Democratic senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, now an Independent, forced Biden to scale back his revenue plans. Then, Biden claims he wants to bump up the corporate tax rate to 28%, but can’t, for “reasons.” Yes, reasons. Amazing how Bernie would have had to deal with exactly those same "reasons", isn't it? Biden is full of shit on this issue, open your eyes. Oh they're quite open. Trust me on that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] underisk@lemmy.ml -18 points 2 years ago (1 child) If only any of these convenient roadblocks and excuses could have stopped him from repeatedly funding and supporting genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) You know it's congress that writes and approves the national budget, which is how funding gets to Israel? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] underisk@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago Not when you use delegated authority to bypass congress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Biden is overriding Congress to send them hundreds of millions in additional child killing bombs. permalink fedilink source parent [+] crusa187@lemmy.ml -20 points 2 years ago (3 children) Let me be clear - Bernie isn’t in office right now. If he were, he’d have likely come up with some way to deal with these two. It’s really too bad that Mr Biden couldn’t arrange an audience with President Manchin during this time to figure something out, since Manchin is calling all the shots. At least they got some things accomplished together. Any and all applicable environmental regs be damned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let me be clear - Bernie isn’t in office right now. If he were, he’d have likely come up with some way to deal with these two. LMFAO. I don't even know where to start responding to that fanciful poppycock. It’s really too bad that Mr Biden couldn’t arrange an audience with President Manchin during this time to figure something out, since Manchin is calling all the shots. A government of multiple representatives from different places who must come to a decision as a group, THE HORROR!!! At least they got some things accomplished together. Any and all applicable environmental regs be damned. Politician negotiates. More at 11. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] crusa187@lemmy.ml -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) fanciful poppycock lol yeah you’re right, Bernie is too nice to have done anything here either, who am I kidding. Successfully navigating these kind of hurdles is not some impossible feat however, despite what the Biden admin and MSNBC might have you think. Consider how FDR dealt with the Dixiecrats. Could Biden have done more along those lines? multiple representatives Since when are voters represented in Washington? If you’re not a donor, you’ve been left out to dry since the 1970s, full stop. The middle class has been eradicated in this country, if it ever even existed to begin with, and Biden has been a central complicit figure in making that happen. negotiates Negotiates for what? More drilling, more oil and gas subsidies. And a massive handout for Manchin, who if you believe the pathetic Dem excuses, was the primary reason we couldn’t get anything done after electing Dems into a majority. Again, I call bullshit. Biden doesn’t want to do anything to help the people, and it shows in his actions. idgaf what he reads from his speech writers, I care about what he does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago We got four star basement politician over here. If everything is so easy, why don't you run for office? permalink fedilink source parent [–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago he’d have likely come up with some way to deal with these two And everyone would get a pony. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SupahRevs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Bernie isn't in office right now. Bernie is in office. He is the Chair of the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions. And he would not be in this position if the Democratic party had not heard what he is saying and agreed to demand government to perform better for the working class. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/in-new-role-as-labor-committee-chair-bernie-sanders-says-corporations-should-be-nervous permalink fedilink source parent
[+] underisk@lemmy.ml -18 points 2 years ago (1 child) If only any of these convenient roadblocks and excuses could have stopped him from repeatedly funding and supporting genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) You know it's congress that writes and approves the national budget, which is how funding gets to Israel? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] underisk@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago Not when you use delegated authority to bypass congress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Biden is overriding Congress to send them hundreds of millions in additional child killing bombs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) You know it's congress that writes and approves the national budget, which is how funding gets to Israel? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] underisk@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago Not when you use delegated authority to bypass congress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Biden is overriding Congress to send them hundreds of millions in additional child killing bombs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago Not when you use delegated authority to bypass congress. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Biden is overriding Congress to send them hundreds of millions in additional child killing bombs. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] crusa187@lemmy.ml -20 points 2 years ago (3 children) Let me be clear - Bernie isn’t in office right now. If he were, he’d have likely come up with some way to deal with these two. It’s really too bad that Mr Biden couldn’t arrange an audience with President Manchin during this time to figure something out, since Manchin is calling all the shots. At least they got some things accomplished together. Any and all applicable environmental regs be damned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let me be clear - Bernie isn’t in office right now. If he were, he’d have likely come up with some way to deal with these two. LMFAO. I don't even know where to start responding to that fanciful poppycock. It’s really too bad that Mr Biden couldn’t arrange an audience with President Manchin during this time to figure something out, since Manchin is calling all the shots. A government of multiple representatives from different places who must come to a decision as a group, THE HORROR!!! At least they got some things accomplished together. Any and all applicable environmental regs be damned. Politician negotiates. More at 11. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] crusa187@lemmy.ml -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) fanciful poppycock lol yeah you’re right, Bernie is too nice to have done anything here either, who am I kidding. Successfully navigating these kind of hurdles is not some impossible feat however, despite what the Biden admin and MSNBC might have you think. Consider how FDR dealt with the Dixiecrats. Could Biden have done more along those lines? multiple representatives Since when are voters represented in Washington? If you’re not a donor, you’ve been left out to dry since the 1970s, full stop. The middle class has been eradicated in this country, if it ever even existed to begin with, and Biden has been a central complicit figure in making that happen. negotiates Negotiates for what? More drilling, more oil and gas subsidies. And a massive handout for Manchin, who if you believe the pathetic Dem excuses, was the primary reason we couldn’t get anything done after electing Dems into a majority. Again, I call bullshit. Biden doesn’t want to do anything to help the people, and it shows in his actions. idgaf what he reads from his speech writers, I care about what he does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago We got four star basement politician over here. If everything is so easy, why don't you run for office? permalink fedilink source parent [–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago he’d have likely come up with some way to deal with these two And everyone would get a pony. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SupahRevs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Bernie isn't in office right now. Bernie is in office. He is the Chair of the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions. And he would not be in this position if the Democratic party had not heard what he is saying and agreed to demand government to perform better for the working class. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/in-new-role-as-labor-committee-chair-bernie-sanders-says-corporations-should-be-nervous permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let me be clear - Bernie isn’t in office right now. If he were, he’d have likely come up with some way to deal with these two. LMFAO. I don't even know where to start responding to that fanciful poppycock. It’s really too bad that Mr Biden couldn’t arrange an audience with President Manchin during this time to figure something out, since Manchin is calling all the shots. A government of multiple representatives from different places who must come to a decision as a group, THE HORROR!!! At least they got some things accomplished together. Any and all applicable environmental regs be damned. Politician negotiates. More at 11. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] crusa187@lemmy.ml -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) fanciful poppycock lol yeah you’re right, Bernie is too nice to have done anything here either, who am I kidding. Successfully navigating these kind of hurdles is not some impossible feat however, despite what the Biden admin and MSNBC might have you think. Consider how FDR dealt with the Dixiecrats. Could Biden have done more along those lines? multiple representatives Since when are voters represented in Washington? If you’re not a donor, you’ve been left out to dry since the 1970s, full stop. The middle class has been eradicated in this country, if it ever even existed to begin with, and Biden has been a central complicit figure in making that happen. negotiates Negotiates for what? More drilling, more oil and gas subsidies. And a massive handout for Manchin, who if you believe the pathetic Dem excuses, was the primary reason we couldn’t get anything done after electing Dems into a majority. Again, I call bullshit. Biden doesn’t want to do anything to help the people, and it shows in his actions. idgaf what he reads from his speech writers, I care about what he does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago We got four star basement politician over here. If everything is so easy, why don't you run for office? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] crusa187@lemmy.ml -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) fanciful poppycock lol yeah you’re right, Bernie is too nice to have done anything here either, who am I kidding. Successfully navigating these kind of hurdles is not some impossible feat however, despite what the Biden admin and MSNBC might have you think. Consider how FDR dealt with the Dixiecrats. Could Biden have done more along those lines? multiple representatives Since when are voters represented in Washington? If you’re not a donor, you’ve been left out to dry since the 1970s, full stop. The middle class has been eradicated in this country, if it ever even existed to begin with, and Biden has been a central complicit figure in making that happen. negotiates Negotiates for what? More drilling, more oil and gas subsidies. And a massive handout for Manchin, who if you believe the pathetic Dem excuses, was the primary reason we couldn’t get anything done after electing Dems into a majority. Again, I call bullshit. Biden doesn’t want to do anything to help the people, and it shows in his actions. idgaf what he reads from his speech writers, I care about what he does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago We got four star basement politician over here. If everything is so easy, why don't you run for office? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago We got four star basement politician over here. If everything is so easy, why don't you run for office? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago he’d have likely come up with some way to deal with these two And everyone would get a pony. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupahRevs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Bernie isn't in office right now. Bernie is in office. He is the Chair of the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions. And he would not be in this position if the Democratic party had not heard what he is saying and agreed to demand government to perform better for the working class. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/in-new-role-as-labor-committee-chair-bernie-sanders-says-corporations-should-be-nervous permalink fedilink source parent