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Michigan governor says not voting for Biden over Gaza war ‘supports second Trump term’ (www.theguardian.com)
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Gretchen Whitmer responds to calls by some Democrats to vote ‘uncommitted’ in Michigan’s primary on Tuesday

Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor, pushed back on calls to not vote for Joe Biden over his handling of the Israel-Gaza conflict, saying on Sunday that could help Trump get re-elected.

“It’s important not to lose sight of the fact that any vote that’s not cast for Joe Biden supports a second Trump term,” she said on Sunday during an interview on CNN’s State of the Union. “A second Trump term would be devastating. Not just on fundamental rights, not just on our democracy here at home, but also when it comes to foreign policy. This was a man who promoted a Muslim ban.”

Whitmer, who is a co-chair of Biden’s 2024 campaign, also said she wasn’t sure what to expect when it came to the protest vote.

Rashida Tlaib, a Democrat who is the only Palestinian-American serving in Congress, urged Democrats last week to vote “uncommitted” in Michigan’s 27 February primary.

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[+] -42 points 2 years ago (1 child)

LOL

Real talk now. You will stop speaking about the so called so called "Genocide in Gaza" as soon as you're distracted by memes making you upset about something else.

Yahya Sinwar will be dead soon enough, and there will be a ceasefire in exchange for the remaining hostages. In a few months there won't be any more civilian casualties in your social media feeds and the memes will tell you that Dark Brandon made Israel accept the ceasefire. You will love the Dark Brandon because of the memes. A few weeks after that the memes and Tik Toks will be making you upset over Trump and you will have forgotten all about the Palestinians. Just like how you never cared about the Ethiopian civil war or any other conflict in the world unless the memes tell you you're supposed to.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Netanyahu empowered this militant group to begin with, secured their funding for them. They're targeting hospitals, border crossings, and refugee camps. It's pretty clear that Israel's goals aren't to defeat Hamas, but to kill as many Palestinians as possible before the time runs out.

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  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You think Israel are trying to kill as many palestinians as possible? They're not doing a great job in that case.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    The rate at which the Palestinians are dying is far above most historic wars. For example, WW2 had about 85,000,000 deaths in 2176 days and the total population of the world was about 2.5 Billion so 0.000015625% dead per day compared to the situation in Gaza where 30,000 dead out of 2 Million total in Gaza over 143 days is 0.015% dead per day. You could argue by including Israeli casualties and total population should be included for fair comparison, but it's still not even close.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    Unhelpful to compare a 5 month conflict in a tiny country to a globe spanning war that lasted years though right? And whats the point in comparing the percentage of the global population that died in one war vs the percentage of people that died in gaza, does that tell us anything useful?

    A more helpful comparison might be the battle of leningrad: 1 500 000 soviet civillians died in 872 days, which works out at 1720 per day. Add on another 3.5 million military deaths and you're looking at 5733 every single day.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They're doing a great job.

    The most effective way to depopulate an area is what the Nazis finally ended up doing, and has been done by every genocidal group since.

    You starve the population.

    It takes a month or two for food stores to run out, then it takes about a month for the starvation to start killing people. During those first two months the numbers don't go up a large amount. Afterwards they go up FAST.

    It also kills off the children first, so even if not fully successful, you've made the population older, and weaker, and less able to resist or fight back the next time.

    This is what Israel is doing.

    A 3 month old Palestinian boy died yesterday from starvation. He wasn't even alive in Oct.

    I hope you never have to eat grass to try to stave off the insanity inducing hunger you seem okay with Israel inducing.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Ah yes just naturally jump into assuming I'm ok with forced starvation. Touch grass.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    You think Israel are trying to kill as many palestinians as possible? They’re not doing a great job in that case.

    You certainly seem like you're trying to whitewash the forced starvation because the numbers didn't increase that much during the initial 2 month period it takes for starvation to start once the Israelis started the starvation campaign.

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