That's the only reason I started using Telegram. It might not be secure or whatever, but it sure is nice to have voice and video calling on a nice-looking desktop app. It's the only one I was able to get my family to use, and that I already had some friends using.

But I could never get them to use advanced shit like SimpleX or something similar lol. "But this already works?" Yeeeaaah but... Nah, it'll never fly. 😑