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Time: Ukraine Can't Win the War (time.com)
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[–] -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom against Russian oppression. We should be helping them, and your defeatism is doing the opposite.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What percent of them are conscripted?

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  • [+] -11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Doesn't matter that they're conscripted, they're invaders and aggressors and they need to be stopped. We should be helping Ukraine, and you're over here waving the surrender flag.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You said its that they want to fight for their freedom so we should help them. Turns out a large portion of them are forced to fight, they dont want to. How are you okay with giving money to a country so they can fight a war with war slaves?

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah, when your country is attacked by a conquering, aggressive nation, you fire up conscription. This isn't rocket science. Ukraine is fighting for it's survival, it needs soldiers to fight off the invaders.

    We should give money, and weapons and materiel, to help in that fight.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    But do you understand how the war is lost, and they are still forced to fight and die because leaders like Zelensky can make them fight? You claimed they were fighting for their freedom, but a large portion of them are fighting so they dont get imprisoned or shot by their own government.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    go sign up instead of cheering on for other people to die if you genuinely believe that, which you obviously do not

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  • [+] -11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't need advice from anyone speaking for Putin, thanks.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The only person you should be taking advice from is a psychiatrist.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I certainly don't need medical advice from a mouthpiece of the Russian state.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You keep on repeating that if that helps you cope.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't need to cope with anything, I'm calling out Russian propaganda.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    What you're actually doing is running around calling people names. It's low effort trolling that just adds noise to the thread. Trolls like you should be banned.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Yes, We should be helping Ukraine, the East Ukraine that has been bombed by West Ukraine since 2014. Did you not see what West Ukraine troops look like? Nazi symbols everywhere.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    We should be helping Ukraine

    By "we" I assume you mean your government. If you're in the US your country already backed a fascist coup in 2014 and had been bombing eastern Ukrainians and ethnic Russians like in Donbas and Crimea for resisting. As you'd expect, that meant people in Donbas welcomed the Russian army as liberators in 2022.

    Not to mention blocking all negotiations with Russia because the war is profitable for the US MIC.

    I wouldn't exactly call that "helping"

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    go sign up and fight for what you believe in

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  • [+] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)
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  • [–] [S] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm not apologizing for anything.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You're towing the Russian propaganda line, same thing.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm saying obvious factual things as reported by western media. Calling that Russian propaganda line shows utter lack of intellectual integrity on your part.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No, you're agitating for Russian interests.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I love how you keep chanting that since you don't have any actual counterpoint to make.

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  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Because Russian propaganda doesn't deserve to be engaged with, any more than the Republican cowards with their JAQing off. It's the same nonsense, and deserves no respect.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It Russian propaganda in the room with you right now?

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's in this thread with me right now for sure.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sounds like it's mostly in your blueAnon brain actually.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No it's in every post and comment you spew out, especially this one.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Again, literal facts that are extensively documented by western media https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup

    The fact that you're unable to engage with reality and screech about Russian propaganda instead says a lot about you.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    More Russian lies.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The fact that you’re unable to engage with reality and screech about Russian propaganda instead says a lot about you.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You should move to an instance that defederates from here, nobody wants to listen to your blueAnon conspiracies here.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I couldn't care less what a bunch of pro-Russian propagandists want. As long as I can see your bullshit, I intend to keep calling it out.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So far you haven't called out any bullshit. You just run around calling people names. I guess in blueAnon circles that passes for making an argument.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Nope, I'm calling out what is obvious Russian propaganda. Namely everything that comes from your account.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What's the Russian propaganda you're calling out, be specific?

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Your entire post and comment chain in this thread, for starters.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Everything I've said in this thread is factual and backed by western sources. Try to put more effort into your trolling in the future.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    BlueAnonsense.

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