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Biden considering executive action to close southern border, sources say (www.cnn.com)
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And you all told me the blue maga border bill that Republicans rejected was 4d chess.

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[–] 73 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I won't rehash my opinions, they already been better said here, but I want to add I hate the phrase "close the border". What the fuck does that mean, was it open, did the last one in forget to close the door?

From the article, he is considering taking action "to restrict migrants’ ability to seek asylum at the US-Mexico border if they crossed illegally" which has a lot more nuance and is important to the discussion. So this will specifically affect people who have a legitimate claim to asylum, the border was never "open" to any migrants without it (or a visa).

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    "Close the border" is ridiculous rhetoric which appeals to far too many of the electorate. Unfortunately, we need to change opinions on the ground before it's no longer viable to use.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    I think that's why framing the debate is so important.

    1. This isn't magically closing the border, this is just adding a new punishment for a small subset of people who cross illegally. Whether or not it will be effective is very debatable (if barbed wire doesn't...)
    2. We should be talking more about the backlog in asylum cases, why aren't we providing adequate funding for the courts to do their job.
    3. Why do we make asylum seekers wait so long to seek asylum and get authorization to work, how does this do anything but place a burden on support systems?

    And so on. This isn't about stopping immigration, it's about punishing those who do. [Too] Many will still support that, but it's a harder stance to take.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is some straight up "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" shit right here.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "You need to change opinions in a democracy in order to succeed in changing policy in a democracy."

    Care to elaborate how that's got anything to do with the road to hell being paved with good intentions?

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