▲ 238 ▼ Nikki Haley says she would pardon Donald Trump if elected president (www.independent.co.uk) submitted 2 years ago by Rapidcreek@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 44 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] HWK_290@lemmy.world 200 points 2 years ago (1 child) So... She's admitting he broke the law? permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (1 child) A pardon is essentially that. But only literally in the case of a conviction. You can issue blanket pardons which basically say "if you did something, you are pardoned". These do not have the direct acknowledgement of guilt but it's obviously heavily implied. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) These don't side-step prosecution though, just the sentence if found guilty, correct? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well don't think there's a point prosecuting someone (i.e. spending insane amounts of taxpayer money) if, in the end, you achieve "nothing", in terms of punishment. There might still be indirect punishment in terms of a hit to public image but eh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like in a high profile case like this the prosecutor would still want to prosecute. If for nothing more than to help make a name for themselves. Of course it's likely that some funding for such a trial would be taken away after the pardon was issued. It would be an interesting states rights issue though. Can a president pardon someone for a state level crime? I think the consensus is no, but I'm not a lawyer so I wouldn't really know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago The governor of said state pardons for state crimes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (1 child) A pardon is essentially that. But only literally in the case of a conviction. You can issue blanket pardons which basically say "if you did something, you are pardoned". These do not have the direct acknowledgement of guilt but it's obviously heavily implied. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) These don't side-step prosecution though, just the sentence if found guilty, correct? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well don't think there's a point prosecuting someone (i.e. spending insane amounts of taxpayer money) if, in the end, you achieve "nothing", in terms of punishment. There might still be indirect punishment in terms of a hit to public image but eh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like in a high profile case like this the prosecutor would still want to prosecute. If for nothing more than to help make a name for themselves. Of course it's likely that some funding for such a trial would be taken away after the pardon was issued. It would be an interesting states rights issue though. Can a president pardon someone for a state level crime? I think the consensus is no, but I'm not a lawyer so I wouldn't really know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago The governor of said state pardons for state crimes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] protist@mander.xyz 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) These don't side-step prosecution though, just the sentence if found guilty, correct? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well don't think there's a point prosecuting someone (i.e. spending insane amounts of taxpayer money) if, in the end, you achieve "nothing", in terms of punishment. There might still be indirect punishment in terms of a hit to public image but eh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like in a high profile case like this the prosecutor would still want to prosecute. If for nothing more than to help make a name for themselves. Of course it's likely that some funding for such a trial would be taken away after the pardon was issued. It would be an interesting states rights issue though. Can a president pardon someone for a state level crime? I think the consensus is no, but I'm not a lawyer so I wouldn't really know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago The governor of said state pardons for state crimes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well don't think there's a point prosecuting someone (i.e. spending insane amounts of taxpayer money) if, in the end, you achieve "nothing", in terms of punishment. There might still be indirect punishment in terms of a hit to public image but eh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like in a high profile case like this the prosecutor would still want to prosecute. If for nothing more than to help make a name for themselves. Of course it's likely that some funding for such a trial would be taken away after the pardon was issued. It would be an interesting states rights issue though. Can a president pardon someone for a state level crime? I think the consensus is no, but I'm not a lawyer so I wouldn't really know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago The governor of said state pardons for state crimes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like in a high profile case like this the prosecutor would still want to prosecute. If for nothing more than to help make a name for themselves. Of course it's likely that some funding for such a trial would be taken away after the pardon was issued. It would be an interesting states rights issue though. Can a president pardon someone for a state level crime? I think the consensus is no, but I'm not a lawyer so I wouldn't really know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago The governor of said state pardons for state crimes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago The governor of said state pardons for state crimes permalink fedilink source parent