I remember it very well. They did plenty of cringe stuff including burning Dixie Chicks CDs, sure.

But I don't remember them having a chart-topping song about murdering women in other countries they were not at war with, let alone women who were citizens of nations that are their own allies.

Dutch guy here. We had our own 9/11 event when Russians shot MH17 out of the air which contained 200 Dutch people. You know what we did? We prosecuted those responsible (in absentia) and they will be arrested once they enter Dutch soil. No kids were harmed in the process (apart from those on the plane). Israel’s response of collective punishment is bad shit crazy!

You would think that someone would look at the last 20 years of war on terror and conclude that maybe you shouldn't handle it the way the US did.

Yeah you could argue that what Israel is doing is much smaller in terms of body count. Iraq and Afghanistan cost million lives+ and many more ruined. Israel is only at 30-40k so far.

But the quality bluntness of propaganda and cruelty of warfare is definitely different. The palestinian people have been imprisoned on a tiny strip of land and have nowhere to go.

I've been wondering why nobody has brought this clear comparison up before. The progressive left knows this will only antagonize the right wing. Since the objective is to save innocent civilian lives and get a ceasefire and not to score political points, they don't draw the parallel.

And the liberals and right wing are excusing Israels behavior because subconsciously they know they did the same thing. So if Israel is guilty, so is the US.

The only one getting political points from the comparison is Russia to keep the atrocity by Israel going, damage the Reputation of the US and distract from their own war. Well or Israel possibly. Not accusing you at all, just musing from an "information warfare" perspective.

These aren’t really apt comparisons. None of the them are calling for the military to go and kill a citizen of another country.

"shot in the head" that's misrepresentation big time. He shoots a gun towards the clowns head but it's one of those gag guns with a flag coming out with the word "bang" on it... Which rhymes with Trump being depicted as a clown. It's far more metaphorical than the other examples and you need to be pretty fucking dense to see it as a call for violence against Trump or anyone else.

The Israeli one and the South African ones are in my opinion comparable in that they both call for explicit violence and their only defense is basically "it's art, I can do what I want"

You're right, it's not a national thing, but it's not okay. The one with Snoop Dogg is a bit different though, because Trump is also inciting violence, so he made himself a legitimate target for responses like that.

Based GWAR cutting off Bush’s head onstage and spraying us all with blood

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In South Africa, there are prominent groups dancing around & chanting, "Kill the Boer! The farmer! SHOOT to KILL!! Brrrrrrrap!"

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I don’t think any of the fucked up countries song of the last 5 years get close to this. People forget 9/11 was over 20 years ago, that’s an entire generation worth of change. Disney was racist in the past, doesn’t mean it’s an excuse for others to be racists now.

That’s what I meant; sure there may have been songs with this stuff in them but they rarely become if ever have become hits. Usually it’s a career killer.

The US Attorney General John Ashcroft singing his wonderfully jingoistic 2002 masterpiece "Let the Eagle Soar"

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