▲ 17 ▼ US iPhone market share jumps to 55% as Android shipments fall (9to5mac.com) submitted 3 years ago by zak11h@lemmy.world to c/apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world 61 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (2 children) What makes you think apple doesn't harvest your data for pretty much the same purposes as Google? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] weedwhacking@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Because apples goal is to sell you hardware. Privacy sells hardware. Googles goal is to have manufacturers use their OS for free so they can harvest and sell data, and maintain control of the mobile ad space. I’m not saying Apple is a moral company far from it, but it has business incentive to build with privacy at the core, Google has the opposite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeavenAndHell@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (1 child) The problem is Apple won't be able to just rely on that forever. Eventually when Macbook Airs are starting at $2999 and people can't afford their hardware, they'll start cutting into user data more if they haven't reached that point yet. Just because a business model supports a virtue doesn't mean that company will always abide by their previous moral commitments. Google once said "Don't be evil" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mark3748@geddit.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, the THREE-trillion dollar, 50-year-old company that figuratively just prints money is going to become so desperate that they will abandon their extremely profitable business model to become… an ad agency? The absolutely irrelevant reference to a vague PR line in Googles old corporate code of conduct was a nice touch, though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago Yes, that's what's going to happen, but maybe not for an ads platform. Your rights are on the chopping block, but don't worry though, because by that point you'll be convinced that giving up your privacy and any individual thought is entirely within your self interest. Ideas like "Big company, much value, can't possibly want more money" is pretty much halfway down the line. Great work doing their work to convince yourself, for them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) They're a computer company. Their primary revenue streams are from hardware, software, and services, not from selling ads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Apple is a corporation that has no ideals or principles, by design. They only care about profit at any cost, and currently support a level of privacy they are comfortable with, because their analysts have surmised that supporting this level of privacy gives a net positive of consumer goodwill over lost ad revenue. Once it gets to a point where that inequality flips over to show a profit in selling user data, that's exactly what they're going to do. Sure, they're not going to reverse directions, right away, no. They have an army of extremely well paid, entirely unscrupulous behavioural psychologists and consumer trend analysts whose job it is to convince you that you want whatever it is that the company wants. All the corporation ass-kissing just makes me sick. It's like being a sheep in a herd all collectively moving to the edge of a cliff with no power for any individual to change course. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jemorgan@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Dude it’s sad how obviously desperate you are to be personally offended by apple. Nobody here is claiming that they’re a company with morals, or that they do anything out of the goodness of their heart. Apple targets a market segment that prioritizes data privacy. They’re under a ton of scrutiny from their users, and stand to lose considerable business if they start compromising on privacy. Likewise, they’ve been gaining more and more market share in the US, largely from people who are switching because of Apple’s stance on privacy. The best way for them to maximize profits is for them to continue to prioritize user privacy, which is why it’s easy to believe that they’ll do so. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0000011110110111i@mas.to 1 point 3 years ago @Tangent5280 I hope you feel better now that you’ve got that off your chest. Maybe try taking a few deep breaths as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] weedwhacking@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Because apples goal is to sell you hardware. Privacy sells hardware. Googles goal is to have manufacturers use their OS for free so they can harvest and sell data, and maintain control of the mobile ad space. I’m not saying Apple is a moral company far from it, but it has business incentive to build with privacy at the core, Google has the opposite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeavenAndHell@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (1 child) The problem is Apple won't be able to just rely on that forever. Eventually when Macbook Airs are starting at $2999 and people can't afford their hardware, they'll start cutting into user data more if they haven't reached that point yet. Just because a business model supports a virtue doesn't mean that company will always abide by their previous moral commitments. Google once said "Don't be evil" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mark3748@geddit.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, the THREE-trillion dollar, 50-year-old company that figuratively just prints money is going to become so desperate that they will abandon their extremely profitable business model to become… an ad agency? The absolutely irrelevant reference to a vague PR line in Googles old corporate code of conduct was a nice touch, though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago Yes, that's what's going to happen, but maybe not for an ads platform. Your rights are on the chopping block, but don't worry though, because by that point you'll be convinced that giving up your privacy and any individual thought is entirely within your self interest. Ideas like "Big company, much value, can't possibly want more money" is pretty much halfway down the line. Great work doing their work to convince yourself, for them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeavenAndHell@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (1 child) The problem is Apple won't be able to just rely on that forever. Eventually when Macbook Airs are starting at $2999 and people can't afford their hardware, they'll start cutting into user data more if they haven't reached that point yet. Just because a business model supports a virtue doesn't mean that company will always abide by their previous moral commitments. Google once said "Don't be evil" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mark3748@geddit.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, the THREE-trillion dollar, 50-year-old company that figuratively just prints money is going to become so desperate that they will abandon their extremely profitable business model to become… an ad agency? The absolutely irrelevant reference to a vague PR line in Googles old corporate code of conduct was a nice touch, though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago Yes, that's what's going to happen, but maybe not for an ads platform. Your rights are on the chopping block, but don't worry though, because by that point you'll be convinced that giving up your privacy and any individual thought is entirely within your self interest. Ideas like "Big company, much value, can't possibly want more money" is pretty much halfway down the line. Great work doing their work to convince yourself, for them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mark3748@geddit.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, the THREE-trillion dollar, 50-year-old company that figuratively just prints money is going to become so desperate that they will abandon their extremely profitable business model to become… an ad agency? The absolutely irrelevant reference to a vague PR line in Googles old corporate code of conduct was a nice touch, though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago Yes, that's what's going to happen, but maybe not for an ads platform. Your rights are on the chopping block, but don't worry though, because by that point you'll be convinced that giving up your privacy and any individual thought is entirely within your self interest. Ideas like "Big company, much value, can't possibly want more money" is pretty much halfway down the line. Great work doing their work to convince yourself, for them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago Yes, that's what's going to happen, but maybe not for an ads platform. Your rights are on the chopping block, but don't worry though, because by that point you'll be convinced that giving up your privacy and any individual thought is entirely within your self interest. Ideas like "Big company, much value, can't possibly want more money" is pretty much halfway down the line. Great work doing their work to convince yourself, for them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) They're a computer company. Their primary revenue streams are from hardware, software, and services, not from selling ads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Apple is a corporation that has no ideals or principles, by design. They only care about profit at any cost, and currently support a level of privacy they are comfortable with, because their analysts have surmised that supporting this level of privacy gives a net positive of consumer goodwill over lost ad revenue. Once it gets to a point where that inequality flips over to show a profit in selling user data, that's exactly what they're going to do. Sure, they're not going to reverse directions, right away, no. They have an army of extremely well paid, entirely unscrupulous behavioural psychologists and consumer trend analysts whose job it is to convince you that you want whatever it is that the company wants. All the corporation ass-kissing just makes me sick. It's like being a sheep in a herd all collectively moving to the edge of a cliff with no power for any individual to change course. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jemorgan@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Dude it’s sad how obviously desperate you are to be personally offended by apple. Nobody here is claiming that they’re a company with morals, or that they do anything out of the goodness of their heart. Apple targets a market segment that prioritizes data privacy. They’re under a ton of scrutiny from their users, and stand to lose considerable business if they start compromising on privacy. Likewise, they’ve been gaining more and more market share in the US, largely from people who are switching because of Apple’s stance on privacy. The best way for them to maximize profits is for them to continue to prioritize user privacy, which is why it’s easy to believe that they’ll do so. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0000011110110111i@mas.to 1 point 3 years ago @Tangent5280 I hope you feel better now that you’ve got that off your chest. Maybe try taking a few deep breaths as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Apple is a corporation that has no ideals or principles, by design. They only care about profit at any cost, and currently support a level of privacy they are comfortable with, because their analysts have surmised that supporting this level of privacy gives a net positive of consumer goodwill over lost ad revenue. Once it gets to a point where that inequality flips over to show a profit in selling user data, that's exactly what they're going to do. Sure, they're not going to reverse directions, right away, no. They have an army of extremely well paid, entirely unscrupulous behavioural psychologists and consumer trend analysts whose job it is to convince you that you want whatever it is that the company wants. All the corporation ass-kissing just makes me sick. It's like being a sheep in a herd all collectively moving to the edge of a cliff with no power for any individual to change course. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jemorgan@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Dude it’s sad how obviously desperate you are to be personally offended by apple. Nobody here is claiming that they’re a company with morals, or that they do anything out of the goodness of their heart. Apple targets a market segment that prioritizes data privacy. They’re under a ton of scrutiny from their users, and stand to lose considerable business if they start compromising on privacy. Likewise, they’ve been gaining more and more market share in the US, largely from people who are switching because of Apple’s stance on privacy. The best way for them to maximize profits is for them to continue to prioritize user privacy, which is why it’s easy to believe that they’ll do so. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0000011110110111i@mas.to 1 point 3 years ago @Tangent5280 I hope you feel better now that you’ve got that off your chest. Maybe try taking a few deep breaths as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jemorgan@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Dude it’s sad how obviously desperate you are to be personally offended by apple. Nobody here is claiming that they’re a company with morals, or that they do anything out of the goodness of their heart. Apple targets a market segment that prioritizes data privacy. They’re under a ton of scrutiny from their users, and stand to lose considerable business if they start compromising on privacy. Likewise, they’ve been gaining more and more market share in the US, largely from people who are switching because of Apple’s stance on privacy. The best way for them to maximize profits is for them to continue to prioritize user privacy, which is why it’s easy to believe that they’ll do so. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0000011110110111i@mas.to 1 point 3 years ago @Tangent5280 I hope you feel better now that you’ve got that off your chest. Maybe try taking a few deep breaths as well. permalink fedilink source parent