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Windows 11 24H2 goes from “unsupported” to “unbootable” on some older PCs (arstechnica.com)
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[–] 44 points 2 years ago (4 children)

May I ask - why is anyone bothering to install Windows 11 on old hardware in the first place?

Old hardware is better for Linux. Either install Linux or you can get used to having your old hardware be used as a paperweight.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    In this context an unsupported cpu would be an i7 7700K for example. Hardly e-waste and can perform quite well..

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Those aren't supported but they're not affected by this specific change. The latest chips that won't be able to boot are Core 2 Duo and the Athlon X2 chips that predated AMD Phenom. Old old.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Laughs in 3770k just until a few months ago

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    I finally upgraded from a 3rd gen i7 to a 6th gen i7. There was no actual performance difference besides my gpu vram getting hotter, I just did it because the motherboard wasn't as shit. I'm sure the difference between a 6th gen i7 and an 8th gen i7 is equally unnoticeable. I didn't want to ever boot Windows again anyway.

    Edit: huh, I'm intrigued by the downvotes. Is it because I used the wording "no actual performance difference" rather than providing benchmarks and proof? Is it because computer technology isn't improving at the rate it used to and people are in denial and/or easily triggered about it? Or maybe because I'm "probably a troll" based on my username?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    It's probably because running such old hardware means your daily usage wouldn't show much difference between the 2 setups. If you mainly browse the internet or play gpu boumd games, you simply wouldn't notice a huge difference.

    Change that use case to cpu bound games or other cpu intensive tasks and you would likely see a not insignificant difference.

    Also newer hardware is more efficient(used to at least), so you should see lower power draw for the same performance or better performance for the same power draw.

    So just because you don't see a difference, it doesn't mean it's not there.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Or just... Stay on Windows 10? There's nothing wrong with it compared to Windows 11 (though Linux is usually a better choice).

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  • [+] -18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Windows 10 sucks as well.

    Like seriously, it freaks out when I try right clicking on anything on the left hand panel of Windows Explorer.

    And I have to keep restarting periodically, just to use not only my internal disc drive but also my external too.

    Windows 10 is just as garbage.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    For all it's shortcomings this sounds more of something on your end and also something quirky that you will any OS really..

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  • [+] -27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Not really.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Definitely really. Your's is not a widespread case. I have personally never seen the issue and I oversee a network almost exclusively made up of windows 10 machines. I have no love for W10, but this is a you thing.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You can't even prove that it's a me-thing. Goes to show how little you actually know. Get off your little armchair and try to demonstrate some level of knowledge.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    You are the one claiming to have the issues. I'm saying I have never had them, and over the entire lifecycle of windows 10 and working on hundreds of computers, I have never seen or heard of anyone else having this issue. The proof that it's a you-thing is that you admitted to having those issues.

    I'm not even sure what you mean by, "... and try to demonstrate some level of knowledge." I didn't present any information that requires more knowledge than being able to read my comment. My experiences, and based on other comments, other's experiences, and a cursory Google search show that yea, this is a you-thing and not a widespread Windows 10 thing.

    Maybe if you yourself weren't so unknowledgeable, you'd have been able to fix your unique issues. It's a bad carpenter that blames his tools.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    Be me
    Teach intro to it-support/devops Course is relatively cheap for the school, as we only use the stuff that the IT dept has obsoleted
    Currently getting 4th gen core i7 machines Life is good, every student has a few i7 machines for clients (win 10) and windows server
    Microsoft announces end of life for win 10 Hate win 11, but if we must...
    MFW Microsoft announces the requirement of CPUs 4 gens newer than the newest machines we're receiving. And I now have to tell my boss that the otherwise cheap course, with not enough students otherwise, will need an investment of at least 18 new desktop machines

    Anybody hiring?

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