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McConnell on Ukraine proxy war: "We haven’t lost a single American in this war. Most of the money that we spend, is spent on replenishing weapons, so it’s actually employing people here."[paraphrased] (edition.cnn.com)
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Mitch McConell says the quiet part out loud.

Exact full quote from CNN:

“People think, increasingly it appears, that we shouldn’t be doing this. Well, let me start by saying we haven’t lost a single American in this war,” McConnell said. “Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons. So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/4085063

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[–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

I didn't say Russia did it. I should not have assumed

rationality I try to assume that actions are taken because the person doing it views it as rational. I don't see the point in trying to understand the world only to write-off as irrational the actions taken under different material realities.

Unlike the US Germany actually has the stealth subs to pull it off undetected unrelated tangent, but I would be very interested in hearing more about German stealth subs and what makes them better. I don't know much about the German navy.

Fair enough on the rest, it seems like a weak motive given that Russia could simply not send the gas or disable it on their end, but that's my opinion not a fact.

Out of curiosity, where did you pick up "seppo"? I've only heard Australians use it before, maybe the occasional brit.

Agreed on Dugin being full of nationalist BS.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I would be very interested in hearing more about German stealth subs and what makes them better.

    Type 212, German-Italian, 214 is the export version without anti-magnetic dishwashers. I'm quipping, the exact differences aren't really known but 212s do have antimagnetic diswashers and 214s are lacking some secret sauce but are still very capable.

    Hydrogen fuel cell air independent drive, they're not fast but very quiet, undetectable via active or passive sonar as well as magnetic sensors. Which makes them undetectable because there's no such thing in the real world as gravimetric sensors (with range that doesn't mean you've bumped into them anyway). Can traverse very shallow waters allowing combat divers to exit to shore, can also dive very deep because the Mediterranean is actually quite deep -- strange combination of capabilities due to joint German/Italian design. Definitely capable of dropping two mines on pipes without anyone noticing.

    By contrast US submarines are nuclear, meaning they're glorified steam engines, quite loud. The Danes would have heard you enter the Skagerrak and then kept eyes on you, wondering WTF a nuclear deterrent submarine is doing in the Baltic Sea. Only alternative route would have been via the Kiel Kanal and... no.

    Out of curiosity, where did you pick up “seppo”? I’ve only heard Australians use it before, maybe the occasional brit.

    A particularly foul-mouthed gooseberry pudding.

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