▲ 191 ▼ ‘Boycott Tesla’ ads to air during Super Bowl — “Tesla dances away from liability in Autopilot crashes by pointing to a note buried deep in the owner’s manual, that says Autopilot is only safe on fr... (www.washingtonpost.com) submitted 2 years ago by L4s@lemmy.world [M, B] to c/technology@lemmy.world 37 comments fedilink hide all child comments ‘Boycott Tesla’ ads to air during Super Bowl — “Tesla dances away from liability in Autopilot crashes by pointing to a note buried deep in the owner’s manual, that says Autopilot is only safe on fr...::undefined
[+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everybody is aware it's not going to be flawless out of the gate, or perhaps ever. That's not the point. They're saying using cameras and only cameras is a bad idea and makes "Autopilot" inherently subpar in situations where cameras don't work so well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] abcxyz@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Never go full fanboy... try actually understanding what people are telling you, why fail safes are good idea, why redundancy systems are implemented, etc. Your anecdotal experience of "I drive in fog and rain and its been good" means nothing... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) When there are vision issues the car complains Except for when it doesn't and the car plows straight into the back of a lorry. Or runs over a teenager getting off a school bus. Etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, as per Tesla's marketing, they are driver replacements permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you serious? Autopilot Full Self Driving "Our cars will travel from the east coast to west coast of the US without any human intervention by 2017" "Your model 3 will be like an automated taxi earning money for you while you're not using it!" Etc. Tesla is always making out like their cars can drive themselves and it's just the law that's preventing cars from driving themselves about unaided. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago A small print disclaimer doesn't undo years of marketing your cars as fully self driving permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everybody is aware it's not going to be flawless out of the gate, or perhaps ever. That's not the point. They're saying using cameras and only cameras is a bad idea and makes "Autopilot" inherently subpar in situations where cameras don't work so well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] abcxyz@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Never go full fanboy... try actually understanding what people are telling you, why fail safes are good idea, why redundancy systems are implemented, etc. Your anecdotal experience of "I drive in fog and rain and its been good" means nothing... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) When there are vision issues the car complains Except for when it doesn't and the car plows straight into the back of a lorry. Or runs over a teenager getting off a school bus. Etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, as per Tesla's marketing, they are driver replacements permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you serious? Autopilot Full Self Driving "Our cars will travel from the east coast to west coast of the US without any human intervention by 2017" "Your model 3 will be like an automated taxi earning money for you while you're not using it!" Etc. Tesla is always making out like their cars can drive themselves and it's just the law that's preventing cars from driving themselves about unaided. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago A small print disclaimer doesn't undo years of marketing your cars as fully self driving permalink fedilink source parent
[+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] abcxyz@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Never go full fanboy... try actually understanding what people are telling you, why fail safes are good idea, why redundancy systems are implemented, etc. Your anecdotal experience of "I drive in fog and rain and its been good" means nothing... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) When there are vision issues the car complains Except for when it doesn't and the car plows straight into the back of a lorry. Or runs over a teenager getting off a school bus. Etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, as per Tesla's marketing, they are driver replacements permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you serious? Autopilot Full Self Driving "Our cars will travel from the east coast to west coast of the US without any human intervention by 2017" "Your model 3 will be like an automated taxi earning money for you while you're not using it!" Etc. Tesla is always making out like their cars can drive themselves and it's just the law that's preventing cars from driving themselves about unaided. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago A small print disclaimer doesn't undo years of marketing your cars as fully self driving permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abcxyz@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Never go full fanboy... try actually understanding what people are telling you, why fail safes are good idea, why redundancy systems are implemented, etc. Your anecdotal experience of "I drive in fog and rain and its been good" means nothing... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) When there are vision issues the car complains Except for when it doesn't and the car plows straight into the back of a lorry. Or runs over a teenager getting off a school bus. Etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, as per Tesla's marketing, they are driver replacements permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you serious? Autopilot Full Self Driving "Our cars will travel from the east coast to west coast of the US without any human intervention by 2017" "Your model 3 will be like an automated taxi earning money for you while you're not using it!" Etc. Tesla is always making out like their cars can drive themselves and it's just the law that's preventing cars from driving themselves about unaided. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago A small print disclaimer doesn't undo years of marketing your cars as fully self driving permalink fedilink source parent
[+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, as per Tesla's marketing, they are driver replacements permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you serious? Autopilot Full Self Driving "Our cars will travel from the east coast to west coast of the US without any human intervention by 2017" "Your model 3 will be like an automated taxi earning money for you while you're not using it!" Etc. Tesla is always making out like their cars can drive themselves and it's just the law that's preventing cars from driving themselves about unaided. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago A small print disclaimer doesn't undo years of marketing your cars as fully self driving permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, as per Tesla's marketing, they are driver replacements permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you serious? Autopilot Full Self Driving "Our cars will travel from the east coast to west coast of the US without any human intervention by 2017" "Your model 3 will be like an automated taxi earning money for you while you're not using it!" Etc. Tesla is always making out like their cars can drive themselves and it's just the law that's preventing cars from driving themselves about unaided. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago A small print disclaimer doesn't undo years of marketing your cars as fully self driving permalink fedilink source parent
[+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you serious? Autopilot Full Self Driving "Our cars will travel from the east coast to west coast of the US without any human intervention by 2017" "Your model 3 will be like an automated taxi earning money for you while you're not using it!" Etc. Tesla is always making out like their cars can drive themselves and it's just the law that's preventing cars from driving themselves about unaided. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago A small print disclaimer doesn't undo years of marketing your cars as fully self driving permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you serious? Autopilot Full Self Driving "Our cars will travel from the east coast to west coast of the US without any human intervention by 2017" "Your model 3 will be like an automated taxi earning money for you while you're not using it!" Etc. Tesla is always making out like their cars can drive themselves and it's just the law that's preventing cars from driving themselves about unaided. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago A small print disclaimer doesn't undo years of marketing your cars as fully self driving permalink fedilink source parent
[+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago A small print disclaimer doesn't undo years of marketing your cars as fully self driving permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago A small print disclaimer doesn't undo years of marketing your cars as fully self driving permalink fedilink source parent