▲ 326 ▼ A 7,000-Pound Car Smashed Through a Guardrail. That’s Bad News for All of Us. (slate.com) submitted 2 years ago by dantheclamman@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 194 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] SapphironZA@lemmings.world 59 points 2 years ago (4 children) Maybe car sales taxes should scale by vehicle weight. If you consume more of the road, you pay more permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] bier@feddit.nl 24 points 2 years ago In the Netherlands you pay a road tax every 3 months. The amount is based on weight (because a heavier car does more damage to a road) but also on eco label. So an electric car that has the best eco label can have less tax than an old (but much lighter) diesel car. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago they do. or more appropriately the registration fees. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago They fundamentally do through taxes on emissions and fuel efficiency, plus fuel consumption taxes. It's just written as explicitly as it being a weight tax permalink fedilink source parent [–] rusticus@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) Should the same approach be taken for the obese? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) An extra 30-60 lbs is only like +1% to the weight of the whole vehicle though. You could get a larger swing by just filling up the tank in a gas/diesel car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure that person meant that the obese should be made to pay more in automobile taxes specifically, but rather in health insurance premiums, or some other kind of fat excise tax. I'm of the opinion that, assuming that a licensed medical provider has performed an appropriate evaluation that excludes the diagnosis of an underlying metabolic disorder that specifically causes one to be obese, there should be remuneration made to the health system for the consequences rendered by their behavioral decisions. Theres already precedent for this with tobacco use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago I do agree with the spirit behind that on some level, but it seems impossible in practice. Obesity, specifically the modern “obesity epidemic” is a complex systemic issue that involves government as well as industry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) ^yes^ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) Why is your font so tiny? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ey tried to write it with ^ on both sides to indicate agreement to a comment right upwards, like this: ^yes^ But an unescaped circumflex makes the following upper script, so ^yes^ becomes ^yes^ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago ^nice^ permalink fedilink source parent [–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago ^i^ ^dont^ ^know^ ^help^ permalink fedilink source parent [+] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] laverabe@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago ⁿᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ permalink fedilink source parent [–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If they weigh enough to change a car's impact on the road then...maybe? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bier@feddit.nl 24 points 2 years ago In the Netherlands you pay a road tax every 3 months. The amount is based on weight (because a heavier car does more damage to a road) but also on eco label. So an electric car that has the best eco label can have less tax than an old (but much lighter) diesel car. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago they do. or more appropriately the registration fees. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago They fundamentally do through taxes on emissions and fuel efficiency, plus fuel consumption taxes. It's just written as explicitly as it being a weight tax permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) Should the same approach be taken for the obese? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) An extra 30-60 lbs is only like +1% to the weight of the whole vehicle though. You could get a larger swing by just filling up the tank in a gas/diesel car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure that person meant that the obese should be made to pay more in automobile taxes specifically, but rather in health insurance premiums, or some other kind of fat excise tax. I'm of the opinion that, assuming that a licensed medical provider has performed an appropriate evaluation that excludes the diagnosis of an underlying metabolic disorder that specifically causes one to be obese, there should be remuneration made to the health system for the consequences rendered by their behavioral decisions. Theres already precedent for this with tobacco use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago I do agree with the spirit behind that on some level, but it seems impossible in practice. Obesity, specifically the modern “obesity epidemic” is a complex systemic issue that involves government as well as industry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) ^yes^ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) Why is your font so tiny? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ey tried to write it with ^ on both sides to indicate agreement to a comment right upwards, like this: ^yes^ But an unescaped circumflex makes the following upper script, so ^yes^ becomes ^yes^ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago ^nice^ permalink fedilink source parent [–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago ^i^ ^dont^ ^know^ ^help^ permalink fedilink source parent [+] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] laverabe@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago ⁿᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ permalink fedilink source parent [–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If they weigh enough to change a car's impact on the road then...maybe? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) An extra 30-60 lbs is only like +1% to the weight of the whole vehicle though. You could get a larger swing by just filling up the tank in a gas/diesel car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure that person meant that the obese should be made to pay more in automobile taxes specifically, but rather in health insurance premiums, or some other kind of fat excise tax. I'm of the opinion that, assuming that a licensed medical provider has performed an appropriate evaluation that excludes the diagnosis of an underlying metabolic disorder that specifically causes one to be obese, there should be remuneration made to the health system for the consequences rendered by their behavioral decisions. Theres already precedent for this with tobacco use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago I do agree with the spirit behind that on some level, but it seems impossible in practice. Obesity, specifically the modern “obesity epidemic” is a complex systemic issue that involves government as well as industry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure that person meant that the obese should be made to pay more in automobile taxes specifically, but rather in health insurance premiums, or some other kind of fat excise tax. I'm of the opinion that, assuming that a licensed medical provider has performed an appropriate evaluation that excludes the diagnosis of an underlying metabolic disorder that specifically causes one to be obese, there should be remuneration made to the health system for the consequences rendered by their behavioral decisions. Theres already precedent for this with tobacco use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago I do agree with the spirit behind that on some level, but it seems impossible in practice. Obesity, specifically the modern “obesity epidemic” is a complex systemic issue that involves government as well as industry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago I do agree with the spirit behind that on some level, but it seems impossible in practice. Obesity, specifically the modern “obesity epidemic” is a complex systemic issue that involves government as well as industry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) ^yes^ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) Why is your font so tiny? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ey tried to write it with ^ on both sides to indicate agreement to a comment right upwards, like this: ^yes^ But an unescaped circumflex makes the following upper script, so ^yes^ becomes ^yes^ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago ^nice^ permalink fedilink source parent [–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago ^i^ ^dont^ ^know^ ^help^ permalink fedilink source parent [+] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] laverabe@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago ⁿᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) Why is your font so tiny? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ey tried to write it with ^ on both sides to indicate agreement to a comment right upwards, like this: ^yes^ But an unescaped circumflex makes the following upper script, so ^yes^ becomes ^yes^ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago ^nice^ permalink fedilink source parent [–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago ^i^ ^dont^ ^know^ ^help^ permalink fedilink source parent [+] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] laverabe@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago ⁿᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ey tried to write it with ^ on both sides to indicate agreement to a comment right upwards, like this: ^yes^ But an unescaped circumflex makes the following upper script, so ^yes^ becomes ^yes^ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago ^nice^ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago ^i^ ^dont^ ^know^ ^help^ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If they weigh enough to change a car's impact on the road then...maybe? permalink fedilink source parent