▲ 728 ▼ Joe Biden just did the rarest thing in US politics: he stood up to the oil industry; The Biden administration suspended new permits for natural gas terminals. Can we see more of this kind of backbone? (www.theguardian.com) submitted 2 years ago by silence7@slrpnk.net [M] to c/climate@slrpnk.net 60 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, don't be realistic the solution is "thoughts and prayers". Or you could get mad about it and go do something to improve the world... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Uh, what? Where did I say to use hopes and prayers? And I do improve the world, regularly. It's small ways, but that's kind of the point: it all adds up... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) People just have to get out there and vote these asshats out. Apathy is why these losers get voted in in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago Apathy is absolutely the problem, but "just" getting out there and voting means replacing them with whatever new asshats the existing donor class selects for you. Actual change is going to require voting, and then getting back out there the next day (and every day thereafter) to hold their feet to the fire through direct action, strikes, organizing, protests, call campaigns, and every other tool at our disposal. Pretending otherwise is almost as much of a disservice as the "voting changes nothing argument. That said, there is a way of not voting that DOES make a difference. Politicians DO pay attention to the differences between votes for various party members on the same ballot. So if you really can't stomach voting for someone, voting for down (or up) ballot races and leaving that one office blank tells them their policies are unpopular with voting members of "their own" party - and that WILL scare them in a way that low turnout won't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) THANK you. We need election reform, but at least it's not like Russia, North Korea, etc here... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You’re on a Netherlands based instance but you live in the USA? My family is Dutch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep. My family is Dutch. Jealous! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Don’t be. I have one of those last names with “van” in it so it always causes problems everywhere because of the space! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Uh, what? Where did I say to use hopes and prayers? And I do improve the world, regularly. It's small ways, but that's kind of the point: it all adds up... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) People just have to get out there and vote these asshats out. Apathy is why these losers get voted in in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago Apathy is absolutely the problem, but "just" getting out there and voting means replacing them with whatever new asshats the existing donor class selects for you. Actual change is going to require voting, and then getting back out there the next day (and every day thereafter) to hold their feet to the fire through direct action, strikes, organizing, protests, call campaigns, and every other tool at our disposal. Pretending otherwise is almost as much of a disservice as the "voting changes nothing argument. That said, there is a way of not voting that DOES make a difference. Politicians DO pay attention to the differences between votes for various party members on the same ballot. So if you really can't stomach voting for someone, voting for down (or up) ballot races and leaving that one office blank tells them their policies are unpopular with voting members of "their own" party - and that WILL scare them in a way that low turnout won't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) THANK you. We need election reform, but at least it's not like Russia, North Korea, etc here... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You’re on a Netherlands based instance but you live in the USA? My family is Dutch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep. My family is Dutch. Jealous! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Don’t be. I have one of those last names with “van” in it so it always causes problems everywhere because of the space! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) People just have to get out there and vote these asshats out. Apathy is why these losers get voted in in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago Apathy is absolutely the problem, but "just" getting out there and voting means replacing them with whatever new asshats the existing donor class selects for you. Actual change is going to require voting, and then getting back out there the next day (and every day thereafter) to hold their feet to the fire through direct action, strikes, organizing, protests, call campaigns, and every other tool at our disposal. Pretending otherwise is almost as much of a disservice as the "voting changes nothing argument. That said, there is a way of not voting that DOES make a difference. Politicians DO pay attention to the differences between votes for various party members on the same ballot. So if you really can't stomach voting for someone, voting for down (or up) ballot races and leaving that one office blank tells them their policies are unpopular with voting members of "their own" party - and that WILL scare them in a way that low turnout won't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) THANK you. We need election reform, but at least it's not like Russia, North Korea, etc here... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You’re on a Netherlands based instance but you live in the USA? My family is Dutch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep. My family is Dutch. Jealous! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Don’t be. I have one of those last names with “van” in it so it always causes problems everywhere because of the space! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago Apathy is absolutely the problem, but "just" getting out there and voting means replacing them with whatever new asshats the existing donor class selects for you. Actual change is going to require voting, and then getting back out there the next day (and every day thereafter) to hold their feet to the fire through direct action, strikes, organizing, protests, call campaigns, and every other tool at our disposal. Pretending otherwise is almost as much of a disservice as the "voting changes nothing argument. That said, there is a way of not voting that DOES make a difference. Politicians DO pay attention to the differences between votes for various party members on the same ballot. So if you really can't stomach voting for someone, voting for down (or up) ballot races and leaving that one office blank tells them their policies are unpopular with voting members of "their own" party - and that WILL scare them in a way that low turnout won't. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) THANK you. We need election reform, but at least it's not like Russia, North Korea, etc here... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You’re on a Netherlands based instance but you live in the USA? My family is Dutch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep. My family is Dutch. Jealous! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Don’t be. I have one of those last names with “van” in it so it always causes problems everywhere because of the space! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You’re on a Netherlands based instance but you live in the USA? My family is Dutch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep. My family is Dutch. Jealous! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Don’t be. I have one of those last names with “van” in it so it always causes problems everywhere because of the space! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep. My family is Dutch. Jealous! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Don’t be. I have one of those last names with “van” in it so it always causes problems everywhere because of the space! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Don’t be. I have one of those last names with “van” in it so it always causes problems everywhere because of the space! permalink fedilink source parent