▲ 637 ▼ Nuclear fusion reaction releases almost twice the energy put in (www.newscientist.com) submitted 2 years ago by throwaway389430@lemmy.cafe to c/news@lemmy.world 344 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] gex@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (5 children) How would you move the power down to earth? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] nymwit@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Microwave transmission is what's usually said, then someone says anything in the beam's path will get zapped, then it's pointed out the energy density isn't that high. Just wanted to shortcut that for ya permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) But what if I want to zap anything in the beam's path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then a meddlesome British agent will interfere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well at least I still have my cat. And my moon laser permalink fedilink source parent [–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Long cable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] justawittyusername@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago We need to make sure we knot it at the joins so it doesn’t get accidentally disconnected. permalink fedilink source parent [–] butterflyattack@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Or just charge up car batteries and drop them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Isn't there already a tesla up there? Checkmate, Elon haters permalink fedilink source parent [–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) How would you move the power down to earth? Last time I read up on it it was via converting the energy into microwaves and beaming it down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] excitingburp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think masers (microwave lasers) are the new theory for achieving this, previously it was beaming microwave down much like your microwave oven beams your food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago It’s not that new. Sim City 2000 included a power plant that was just a receiving dish for a maser permalink fedilink source parent [–] cygnosis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Funny thing is, no matter how you arrange to do that it becomes a de-facto death ray. Stick a terawatt of solar panels in space, use the power to shine a laser/maser down to earth, then build a station to turn the laser power back to electricity? Great, until some hacker figures out how to control where the laser is pointed. Then you get Dr. Evil holding the world for ransom. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago Nah it's not really bad at all: The use of microwave transmission of power has been the most controversial issue in considering any SPS design. At the Earth's surface, a suggested microwave beam would have a maximum intensity at its center, of 23 mW/cm2 (less than 1/4 the solar irradiation constant), and an intensity of less than 1 mW/cm2 outside the rectenna fenceline (the receiver's perimeter). These compare with current United States Occupational Safety and Health Act (OSHA) workplace exposure limits for microwaves, which are 10 mW/cm2,[original research?] - the limit itself being expressed in voluntary terms and ruled unenforceable for Federal OSHA enforcement purposes.[citation needed] A beam of this intensity is therefore at its center, of a similar magnitude to current safe workplace levels, even for long term or indefinite exposure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_solar_power?wprov=sfla1 permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Lasers permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nymwit@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Microwave transmission is what's usually said, then someone says anything in the beam's path will get zapped, then it's pointed out the energy density isn't that high. Just wanted to shortcut that for ya permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) But what if I want to zap anything in the beam's path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then a meddlesome British agent will interfere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well at least I still have my cat. And my moon laser permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) But what if I want to zap anything in the beam's path? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then a meddlesome British agent will interfere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well at least I still have my cat. And my moon laser permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then a meddlesome British agent will interfere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well at least I still have my cat. And my moon laser permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well at least I still have my cat. And my moon laser permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Long cable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] justawittyusername@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago We need to make sure we knot it at the joins so it doesn’t get accidentally disconnected. permalink fedilink source parent [–] butterflyattack@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Or just charge up car batteries and drop them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Isn't there already a tesla up there? Checkmate, Elon haters permalink fedilink source parent
[–] justawittyusername@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago We need to make sure we knot it at the joins so it doesn’t get accidentally disconnected. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] butterflyattack@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Or just charge up car batteries and drop them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Isn't there already a tesla up there? Checkmate, Elon haters permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Isn't there already a tesla up there? Checkmate, Elon haters permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) How would you move the power down to earth? Last time I read up on it it was via converting the energy into microwaves and beaming it down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] excitingburp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think masers (microwave lasers) are the new theory for achieving this, previously it was beaming microwave down much like your microwave oven beams your food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago It’s not that new. Sim City 2000 included a power plant that was just a receiving dish for a maser permalink fedilink source parent
[–] excitingburp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think masers (microwave lasers) are the new theory for achieving this, previously it was beaming microwave down much like your microwave oven beams your food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago It’s not that new. Sim City 2000 included a power plant that was just a receiving dish for a maser permalink fedilink source parent
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago It’s not that new. Sim City 2000 included a power plant that was just a receiving dish for a maser permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cygnosis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Funny thing is, no matter how you arrange to do that it becomes a de-facto death ray. Stick a terawatt of solar panels in space, use the power to shine a laser/maser down to earth, then build a station to turn the laser power back to electricity? Great, until some hacker figures out how to control where the laser is pointed. Then you get Dr. Evil holding the world for ransom. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago Nah it's not really bad at all: The use of microwave transmission of power has been the most controversial issue in considering any SPS design. At the Earth's surface, a suggested microwave beam would have a maximum intensity at its center, of 23 mW/cm2 (less than 1/4 the solar irradiation constant), and an intensity of less than 1 mW/cm2 outside the rectenna fenceline (the receiver's perimeter). These compare with current United States Occupational Safety and Health Act (OSHA) workplace exposure limits for microwaves, which are 10 mW/cm2,[original research?] - the limit itself being expressed in voluntary terms and ruled unenforceable for Federal OSHA enforcement purposes.[citation needed] A beam of this intensity is therefore at its center, of a similar magnitude to current safe workplace levels, even for long term or indefinite exposure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_solar_power?wprov=sfla1 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago Nah it's not really bad at all: The use of microwave transmission of power has been the most controversial issue in considering any SPS design. At the Earth's surface, a suggested microwave beam would have a maximum intensity at its center, of 23 mW/cm2 (less than 1/4 the solar irradiation constant), and an intensity of less than 1 mW/cm2 outside the rectenna fenceline (the receiver's perimeter). These compare with current United States Occupational Safety and Health Act (OSHA) workplace exposure limits for microwaves, which are 10 mW/cm2,[original research?] - the limit itself being expressed in voluntary terms and ruled unenforceable for Federal OSHA enforcement purposes.[citation needed] A beam of this intensity is therefore at its center, of a similar magnitude to current safe workplace levels, even for long term or indefinite exposure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_solar_power?wprov=sfla1 permalink fedilink source parent