▲ 326 ▼ A 7,000-Pound Car Smashed Through a Guardrail. That’s Bad News for All of Us. (slate.com) submitted 2 years ago by dantheclamman@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 194 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 25 points 2 years ago (2 children) But he noted that in the real world, a guardrail is much more likely to be placed next to a steep [drop-off] than a concrete barrier. Thankfully it was a test, but there's probably already instances where an over-weight vehicle has smashed through safety devices. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sizzler@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's a guard rail guy on YouTube who investigates how the guard rails have been fitted. They often have bolts and the tension wire incorrectly installed so much so that they don't even effectively stop small vehicles. That guy lost a family member to this type of accident and so is on a crusade kinda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) My kinda superhero permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sizzler@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://m.youtube.com/@TheGuardrailGuy It's sad because you can hear the frustration in his voice that for the sake of better training lives could be saved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bloopernova@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago I am contracted to a utility and I get to see just how much time they spend on teaching people about safety. We still see deaths and serious injuries because some people are so lazy they don't give a fuck if they kill someone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nougat@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm willing to bet the super tall pickups and SUVs are more likely to hop over those steel guardrails, too. Related: Those sloped concrete dividers that have a slightly shallower slope at their wider bottom? Those are super effective, because that bottom slope deflects the vehicle's front wheel, causing it to turn slightly away from the barrier instead of continuing to smash through it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bstix@feddit.dk 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's called a Jersey barrier. They have other issues though. They cost more to produce, cost more to install and cost more to maintain. They also accumulate snow, which would otherwise blow through an open W guard rail. A third option are wire guards. They're cheaper on all accounts, don't get tagged with graffiti and statistically save more lifes. They work best on long straight stretches, but because of the flexibility, they are not ideal for inner city streets where it's best to avoid any lane breaches at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Wire guards are wildly unsafe for motorcyclists though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago Everything is wildly unsafe for motorcycles though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's a myth. It may look like a "cheese grater" but statistics show that they have saved more motorcycle lifes than any other barriers, and there are no records of anyone actually getting grated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I hate to be the "sources" guy, but the last time I looked at what few studies there where on the topic they weren't positive. Could you direct me to where you found that info? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 point 2 years ago https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Effect-of-Barrier-Type-on-Injury-Severity-in-in-and-Daniello-Gabler/713812a75a706980825e7f9e856ce3af9d588892 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago Those are called jersey barriers permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sizzler@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's a guard rail guy on YouTube who investigates how the guard rails have been fitted. They often have bolts and the tension wire incorrectly installed so much so that they don't even effectively stop small vehicles. That guy lost a family member to this type of accident and so is on a crusade kinda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) My kinda superhero permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sizzler@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://m.youtube.com/@TheGuardrailGuy It's sad because you can hear the frustration in his voice that for the sake of better training lives could be saved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bloopernova@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago I am contracted to a utility and I get to see just how much time they spend on teaching people about safety. We still see deaths and serious injuries because some people are so lazy they don't give a fuck if they kill someone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) My kinda superhero permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sizzler@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://m.youtube.com/@TheGuardrailGuy It's sad because you can hear the frustration in his voice that for the sake of better training lives could be saved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bloopernova@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago I am contracted to a utility and I get to see just how much time they spend on teaching people about safety. We still see deaths and serious injuries because some people are so lazy they don't give a fuck if they kill someone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sizzler@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (1 child) https://m.youtube.com/@TheGuardrailGuy It's sad because you can hear the frustration in his voice that for the sake of better training lives could be saved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bloopernova@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago I am contracted to a utility and I get to see just how much time they spend on teaching people about safety. We still see deaths and serious injuries because some people are so lazy they don't give a fuck if they kill someone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago I am contracted to a utility and I get to see just how much time they spend on teaching people about safety. We still see deaths and serious injuries because some people are so lazy they don't give a fuck if they kill someone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nougat@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm willing to bet the super tall pickups and SUVs are more likely to hop over those steel guardrails, too. Related: Those sloped concrete dividers that have a slightly shallower slope at their wider bottom? Those are super effective, because that bottom slope deflects the vehicle's front wheel, causing it to turn slightly away from the barrier instead of continuing to smash through it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bstix@feddit.dk 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's called a Jersey barrier. They have other issues though. They cost more to produce, cost more to install and cost more to maintain. They also accumulate snow, which would otherwise blow through an open W guard rail. A third option are wire guards. They're cheaper on all accounts, don't get tagged with graffiti and statistically save more lifes. They work best on long straight stretches, but because of the flexibility, they are not ideal for inner city streets where it's best to avoid any lane breaches at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Wire guards are wildly unsafe for motorcyclists though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago Everything is wildly unsafe for motorcycles though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's a myth. It may look like a "cheese grater" but statistics show that they have saved more motorcycle lifes than any other barriers, and there are no records of anyone actually getting grated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I hate to be the "sources" guy, but the last time I looked at what few studies there where on the topic they weren't positive. Could you direct me to where you found that info? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 point 2 years ago https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Effect-of-Barrier-Type-on-Injury-Severity-in-in-and-Daniello-Gabler/713812a75a706980825e7f9e856ce3af9d588892 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago Those are called jersey barriers permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bstix@feddit.dk 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's called a Jersey barrier. They have other issues though. They cost more to produce, cost more to install and cost more to maintain. They also accumulate snow, which would otherwise blow through an open W guard rail. A third option are wire guards. They're cheaper on all accounts, don't get tagged with graffiti and statistically save more lifes. They work best on long straight stretches, but because of the flexibility, they are not ideal for inner city streets where it's best to avoid any lane breaches at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Wire guards are wildly unsafe for motorcyclists though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago Everything is wildly unsafe for motorcycles though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's a myth. It may look like a "cheese grater" but statistics show that they have saved more motorcycle lifes than any other barriers, and there are no records of anyone actually getting grated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I hate to be the "sources" guy, but the last time I looked at what few studies there where on the topic they weren't positive. Could you direct me to where you found that info? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 point 2 years ago https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Effect-of-Barrier-Type-on-Injury-Severity-in-in-and-Daniello-Gabler/713812a75a706980825e7f9e856ce3af9d588892 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Wire guards are wildly unsafe for motorcyclists though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago Everything is wildly unsafe for motorcycles though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's a myth. It may look like a "cheese grater" but statistics show that they have saved more motorcycle lifes than any other barriers, and there are no records of anyone actually getting grated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I hate to be the "sources" guy, but the last time I looked at what few studies there where on the topic they weren't positive. Could you direct me to where you found that info? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 point 2 years ago https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Effect-of-Barrier-Type-on-Injury-Severity-in-in-and-Daniello-Gabler/713812a75a706980825e7f9e856ce3af9d588892 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago Everything is wildly unsafe for motorcycles though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's a myth. It may look like a "cheese grater" but statistics show that they have saved more motorcycle lifes than any other barriers, and there are no records of anyone actually getting grated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I hate to be the "sources" guy, but the last time I looked at what few studies there where on the topic they weren't positive. Could you direct me to where you found that info? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 point 2 years ago https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Effect-of-Barrier-Type-on-Injury-Severity-in-in-and-Daniello-Gabler/713812a75a706980825e7f9e856ce3af9d588892 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I hate to be the "sources" guy, but the last time I looked at what few studies there where on the topic they weren't positive. Could you direct me to where you found that info? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 point 2 years ago https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Effect-of-Barrier-Type-on-Injury-Severity-in-in-and-Daniello-Gabler/713812a75a706980825e7f9e856ce3af9d588892 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 point 2 years ago https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Effect-of-Barrier-Type-on-Injury-Severity-in-in-and-Daniello-Gabler/713812a75a706980825e7f9e856ce3af9d588892 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago Those are called jersey barriers permalink fedilink source parent