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US's Blinken says no to any Ukraine peace deal that doesn't include total Russian withdrawal (apnews.com)
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“We believe the prerequisite for meaningful diplomacy and real peace is a stronger Ukraine, capable of deterring and defending against any future aggression,” Blinken said in a speech in Finland, which recently became NATO’s newest member and shares a long border with Russia.

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[–] -4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

The only people doing mental gymnastics here are the ones who genuinely believe that the west is helping Ukraine defend itself as opposed to destroying Ukraine in a proxy war with Russia. You are all going to have a lot of soul searching to do at the end of all this.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child)

    "i know you are but what am I?" is the argument of a child, and pretending that the west helping Ukraine is the same as Russia bombing it to bits is treating your audience like children.

    believe it or not, not everyone is as foolish as you.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The west is not helping Ukraine, and the fact that people in the west continue to pretend that's the case if absolutely sickening. And you've demonstrated beyond all doubt that you are far more foolish than me.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 years ago

    The west is not helping Ukraine

    so you say, but in every demonstrable way, we are, including by every claim made by their government and the plurality of their people. and it's pretty hilarious that you claim to be some authority to make claims to the contrary. The only ones who would claim otherwise are Russia and their supporters, of which you are clearly one.

    so, why should anyone take your positions seriously?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Wow, your maps are so persuasive!

    I'm excited to report that I just looked at map of Kosovo, it shows almost the same thing! That region is full of people who consider themselves ethnic Albanians who don't support Serbia in the slightest.

    I guess that means that you must support the annexation of Kosovo to Albania, by force if necessary, right? I mean, because otherwise that would mean that you are nothing more than a reflexive, anti-West stooge and there's no way that could be possible.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    If people in Kosovo actually want to join Albania then they should be able to. Last I checked though, there are plenty of Serbs living there who recently clashed with NATO troops. You want to remind me why that happened?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Because the PM of Kosovo was an idiot. Fortunately he now seems to be willing to change his plans.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Wait, but I thought you were just telling me that people in Kosovo wanted to join Albania. Can't even keep your story straight? 🤡

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