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[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 45 points 3 years ago (1 child)

The weirder thing is is that I checked their post history and they said they're conservative, though based on their fear of Russian memes I'm guessing a Never Trumper? Weird.

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[–] rckclmbr@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

How about the part the only hexbear user I looked into history for was tied to Russia?

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[–] ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net 36 points 3 years ago (1 child)

look into my history, I wanna know what my connection to russia is

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[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 37 points 3 years ago

reading posters history like tarot cards

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[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 32 points 3 years ago (1 child)

I'm sure you think you found evidence of a Hexbear user's "ties to Russia" but I promise that Hexbear is just a bunch of leftist shitposters. Your fear of Russian influence is not healthy nor tied to reality. I'm not even concern trolling here, I'm genuinely concerned for your mental health. This paranoia is not healthy.

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[–] rckclmbr@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

I've worked for major social media companies for a majority of my career and understand the impacts they can have, I can assure you my concerns are healthy

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[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 33 points 3 years ago (1 child)

And where are those social media companies based?

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[–] rckclmbr@lemm.ee -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

I'm not a huge fan of leading questiond, maybe just say the point you're trying to make?

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[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 33 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

Fair enough.

All the major social media companies I'm aware of are based in Silcon Valley, IE the United States. I'm not saying that foreign governments don't try to astroturf them, but surely companies based IN america are more likely to be heavily influenced BY American influences (corporate and government)? And surely you should be more afraid of having your opinion influenced by propaganda from the people who actually hold the power over the platform, than from foreign governments trying to infiltrate the platform? Surely you should be more afraid of the powers that be that are actually close to home for you?

This is my thing with people that are afraid of Russia or CPC influence. I'm not a Christian, but I do think that Jesus had a really good damn point when he said "take the beam out of your own eye". Focus on whats going on in your own neck of the woods.

Its like the "TikTok harvesting data for the Chinese government" controversy, why are we worried about that when American social media companies are harvesting our data right here at home. What rational reason do I have to be more afraid of a foreign government than the one I actually live under the power of?

ETA: Porkroll Posadist (the one with the arthur clenching fist PFP) made a really good post about this here: https://hexbear.net/comment/3714293

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[–] rckclmbr@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child)

A company based in the country of operation is incentivized for that country to be financially successful. A foreign government isn't, unless it's to their advantage. I'm not afraid of foreign interference, but I think there's aligned goals in supporting a company in your own country. I agree influence could happen both in and out of the countries, and all sides of the political spectrum

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 32 points 3 years ago (1 child)

A company based in the country of operation is incentivized for that country to be financially successful.

Seems like you should be able to test this theory in the real world by observing how corporations approach paying taxes

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[–] rckclmbr@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child)

We are comparing foreign government to a domestic corporation

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 26 points 3 years ago

What part of my reply to you gave you the impression I wasn't able to read your comment?

You're fundamentally wrong about the nature of one of the things you're comparing. Now that I've explained the subtext of my comment do you have anything to say to that point?

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[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 31 points 3 years ago

How did you determine that they were "tied to Russia"

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[–] rckclmbr@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

Yes

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[–] Redcat@hexbear.net 27 points 3 years ago (1 child)

is there anything else that you refuse to do because russians potentially do them as well?

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[–] edge@hexbear.net 22 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

I've heard those evil RuZZians breath oxygen!

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[–] Redcat@hexbear.net 22 points 3 years ago*

Sure, we can joke about this but consider, that if I or anybody I know thought like that we simply wouldn't discuss politics at all. As that's something that liberals and fascists also do.

So you've watched enough american media to believe that political memes are something that Russians do, and that they totally destroyed american democracy with those memes? Well, I've seen more than my fair share of NAFO and americans online making memes about how non westerners should all be genocided. That won't keep me from making fun of a fascist like Ron DeSantis with a meme.

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[–] ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net 18 points 3 years ago

Because you're afraid that you could be swayed by foreign memes as well?