▲ 350 ▼ xkcd again, but now on linguists and their weird habits (mander.xyz) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by lvxferre@mander.xyz [M] to c/linguistics_humor@sh.itjust.works 22 comments fedilink hide all child comments I feel slightly offended. Because it's true. (Alt text: "Do you feel like the answer depends on whether you're currently in the hole, versus when you refer to the events later after you get out? Assuming you get out.") xkcd source
[+] lvxferre@mander.xyz [S] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] callipygin@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago* I could say "I fell in a hole" to mean either case (I was in or out of the hole beforehand), but for "I fell into a hole" I would only use it when starting outside the hole. (native speaker) Like on the one hand it could mean "I fell [while I was] in the hole" But it could also mean "I fell [and then I was] in the hole" permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago I am a native speaker, and I do take my word choices very seriously - often to the point of pausing during conversations to find the exact phrasing which will convey the shade of meaning I am looking to convey. I wrote fiction for a while, and it was always extremely important to me to get phrasing right. I agree with you completely. While I would interpret all of those phrases as equivalent (based on context) if they were to come from someone else, I would tend to use them in exactly the ways you suggest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] callipygin@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago* I could say "I fell in a hole" to mean either case (I was in or out of the hole beforehand), but for "I fell into a hole" I would only use it when starting outside the hole. (native speaker) Like on the one hand it could mean "I fell [while I was] in the hole" But it could also mean "I fell [and then I was] in the hole" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago I am a native speaker, and I do take my word choices very seriously - often to the point of pausing during conversations to find the exact phrasing which will convey the shade of meaning I am looking to convey. I wrote fiction for a while, and it was always extremely important to me to get phrasing right. I agree with you completely. While I would interpret all of those phrases as equivalent (based on context) if they were to come from someone else, I would tend to use them in exactly the ways you suggest. permalink fedilink source parent