▲ 1365 ▼ Don't let the corporations tell you otherwise (lemmy.ohaa.xyz) submitted 2 years ago by FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz to c/memes@lemmy.world 331 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) By this logic wage theft isn't theft since the employee never had the money in their possession. Let's exaggerate things. An indie dev sells a game for 5$ and when all things are split up they have 2$ going to them. They sell one copy but with the tracker they put into the game, they can tell that there's a million person that have played it. Their income for the work they put in is 2$, a million -1 people got to enjoy what they created through piracy. So you're telling me, no one has stolen anything from that creator? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Right, because content appears out of thin air. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago From the point of view of the person that should be compensated in order for you to have access to the content, it absolutely is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) in wage theft, there is an agreement about getting paid, and the employer fraudulently does not pay that. I have no such agreement with ubisoft or blizzard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok, but you acquiring content through piracy also is fraud and also makes you acquire something someone worked for without compensating them when the agreement they had with society in general was that they would make their creation available in exchange for money. But hey, social contract, who needs that? 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) >acquiring content through piracy also is fraud letting someone share a song with you is not fraud permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago It is if the person sharing it isn't the original creator, they do it in a way that makes it so you're now in possession of the content and they do it without the creator's approval. You guys are so good at mental gymnastics, you should use some of that energy to understand laws and to think about more than your self interest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) By this logic wage theft isn't theft since the employee never had the money in their possession. Let's exaggerate things. An indie dev sells a game for 5$ and when all things are split up they have 2$ going to them. They sell one copy but with the tracker they put into the game, they can tell that there's a million person that have played it. Their income for the work they put in is 2$, a million -1 people got to enjoy what they created through piracy. So you're telling me, no one has stolen anything from that creator? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Right, because content appears out of thin air. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago From the point of view of the person that should be compensated in order for you to have access to the content, it absolutely is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) in wage theft, there is an agreement about getting paid, and the employer fraudulently does not pay that. I have no such agreement with ubisoft or blizzard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok, but you acquiring content through piracy also is fraud and also makes you acquire something someone worked for without compensating them when the agreement they had with society in general was that they would make their creation available in exchange for money. But hey, social contract, who needs that? 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) >acquiring content through piracy also is fraud letting someone share a song with you is not fraud permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago It is if the person sharing it isn't the original creator, they do it in a way that makes it so you're now in possession of the content and they do it without the creator's approval. You guys are so good at mental gymnastics, you should use some of that energy to understand laws and to think about more than your self interest. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Right, because content appears out of thin air. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago From the point of view of the person that should be compensated in order for you to have access to the content, it absolutely is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Right, because content appears out of thin air. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago From the point of view of the person that should be compensated in order for you to have access to the content, it absolutely is. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago From the point of view of the person that should be compensated in order for you to have access to the content, it absolutely is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago From the point of view of the person that should be compensated in order for you to have access to the content, it absolutely is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) in wage theft, there is an agreement about getting paid, and the employer fraudulently does not pay that. I have no such agreement with ubisoft or blizzard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok, but you acquiring content through piracy also is fraud and also makes you acquire something someone worked for without compensating them when the agreement they had with society in general was that they would make their creation available in exchange for money. But hey, social contract, who needs that? 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) >acquiring content through piracy also is fraud letting someone share a song with you is not fraud permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago It is if the person sharing it isn't the original creator, they do it in a way that makes it so you're now in possession of the content and they do it without the creator's approval. You guys are so good at mental gymnastics, you should use some of that energy to understand laws and to think about more than your self interest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok, but you acquiring content through piracy also is fraud and also makes you acquire something someone worked for without compensating them when the agreement they had with society in general was that they would make their creation available in exchange for money. But hey, social contract, who needs that? 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) >acquiring content through piracy also is fraud letting someone share a song with you is not fraud permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago It is if the person sharing it isn't the original creator, they do it in a way that makes it so you're now in possession of the content and they do it without the creator's approval. You guys are so good at mental gymnastics, you should use some of that energy to understand laws and to think about more than your self interest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) >acquiring content through piracy also is fraud letting someone share a song with you is not fraud permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago It is if the person sharing it isn't the original creator, they do it in a way that makes it so you're now in possession of the content and they do it without the creator's approval. You guys are so good at mental gymnastics, you should use some of that energy to understand laws and to think about more than your self interest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago It is if the person sharing it isn't the original creator, they do it in a way that makes it so you're now in possession of the content and they do it without the creator's approval. You guys are so good at mental gymnastics, you should use some of that energy to understand laws and to think about more than your self interest. permalink fedilink source parent