▲ 1365 ▼ Don't let the corporations tell you otherwise (lemmy.ohaa.xyz) submitted 2 years ago by FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz to c/memes@lemmy.world 331 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Option three: Donate to creator or buy something directly from them to help offset the cost of pirating. Pirates: Nah I'm good fam. I just want free shit because I'm too poor and don't get paid enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) A donation or purchasing something else doesn't legally or morally entitle you to owning an unrelated product made by the creator though... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I disagree. Consumer gets game, creator gets paid. Seems pretty cut and dried to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unless the creator gives you their approval, it's a donation that you can't assume gives you the right to their product. It's funny the mental gymnastic you guys will do to justify your choices and make you feel like you're morally right. By the way, I don't believe for one second that you've sent donations to all the creators of which you've pirated content. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're equating the law with morality. They differ sometimes. And yes, personally as soon as I had the money I purchased (or rather leased) everything I pirated and used past a standard trial period. Except for a few indie albums whose creators I couldn't find. Except for age of empires, now I think if it. I'll go buy it tonight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Even from a moral point of view, would you work for your employer if they told you "You won't get a salary but I promise that when things are financially better in a few years I will pay you back!" and a fairly substantial % of employers would do that but in the end only a minority would keep their promise? Sounds nice, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Literally an internship permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) it's immoral to prevent people from sharing tools or stories or songs or skills. i'm entitled to enjoy whatever someone wants to share with me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No you're not if it's infringing on someone's copyright and you would agree with me if you ever created something you were trying to sell to make a living. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) copyright is an immoral government-enforced monopoly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Immoral? How do creatives make money if everyone is free to copy their work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) by selling it or taking commissions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They're already doing it, you keep saying it's ok not to compensate them for their work and to simply share it by copying the files without any involvement with the original creator. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) yes. this isn't a contradiction at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok, so you're either an idiot or a troll. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago I’ve been dealing with this kid for a while and I can tell you from that experience- They’re both. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) A donation or purchasing something else doesn't legally or morally entitle you to owning an unrelated product made by the creator though... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I disagree. Consumer gets game, creator gets paid. Seems pretty cut and dried to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unless the creator gives you their approval, it's a donation that you can't assume gives you the right to their product. It's funny the mental gymnastic you guys will do to justify your choices and make you feel like you're morally right. By the way, I don't believe for one second that you've sent donations to all the creators of which you've pirated content. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're equating the law with morality. They differ sometimes. And yes, personally as soon as I had the money I purchased (or rather leased) everything I pirated and used past a standard trial period. Except for a few indie albums whose creators I couldn't find. Except for age of empires, now I think if it. I'll go buy it tonight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Even from a moral point of view, would you work for your employer if they told you "You won't get a salary but I promise that when things are financially better in a few years I will pay you back!" and a fairly substantial % of employers would do that but in the end only a minority would keep their promise? Sounds nice, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Literally an internship permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) it's immoral to prevent people from sharing tools or stories or songs or skills. i'm entitled to enjoy whatever someone wants to share with me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No you're not if it's infringing on someone's copyright and you would agree with me if you ever created something you were trying to sell to make a living. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) copyright is an immoral government-enforced monopoly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Immoral? How do creatives make money if everyone is free to copy their work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) by selling it or taking commissions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They're already doing it, you keep saying it's ok not to compensate them for their work and to simply share it by copying the files without any involvement with the original creator. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) yes. this isn't a contradiction at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok, so you're either an idiot or a troll. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago I’ve been dealing with this kid for a while and I can tell you from that experience- They’re both. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I disagree. Consumer gets game, creator gets paid. Seems pretty cut and dried to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unless the creator gives you their approval, it's a donation that you can't assume gives you the right to their product. It's funny the mental gymnastic you guys will do to justify your choices and make you feel like you're morally right. By the way, I don't believe for one second that you've sent donations to all the creators of which you've pirated content. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're equating the law with morality. They differ sometimes. And yes, personally as soon as I had the money I purchased (or rather leased) everything I pirated and used past a standard trial period. Except for a few indie albums whose creators I couldn't find. Except for age of empires, now I think if it. I'll go buy it tonight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Even from a moral point of view, would you work for your employer if they told you "You won't get a salary but I promise that when things are financially better in a few years I will pay you back!" and a fairly substantial % of employers would do that but in the end only a minority would keep their promise? Sounds nice, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Literally an internship permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unless the creator gives you their approval, it's a donation that you can't assume gives you the right to their product. It's funny the mental gymnastic you guys will do to justify your choices and make you feel like you're morally right. By the way, I don't believe for one second that you've sent donations to all the creators of which you've pirated content. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're equating the law with morality. They differ sometimes. And yes, personally as soon as I had the money I purchased (or rather leased) everything I pirated and used past a standard trial period. Except for a few indie albums whose creators I couldn't find. Except for age of empires, now I think if it. I'll go buy it tonight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Even from a moral point of view, would you work for your employer if they told you "You won't get a salary but I promise that when things are financially better in a few years I will pay you back!" and a fairly substantial % of employers would do that but in the end only a minority would keep their promise? Sounds nice, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Literally an internship permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're equating the law with morality. They differ sometimes. And yes, personally as soon as I had the money I purchased (or rather leased) everything I pirated and used past a standard trial period. Except for a few indie albums whose creators I couldn't find. Except for age of empires, now I think if it. I'll go buy it tonight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Even from a moral point of view, would you work for your employer if they told you "You won't get a salary but I promise that when things are financially better in a few years I will pay you back!" and a fairly substantial % of employers would do that but in the end only a minority would keep their promise? Sounds nice, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Literally an internship permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Even from a moral point of view, would you work for your employer if they told you "You won't get a salary but I promise that when things are financially better in a few years I will pay you back!" and a fairly substantial % of employers would do that but in the end only a minority would keep their promise? Sounds nice, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Literally an internship permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Literally an internship permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) it's immoral to prevent people from sharing tools or stories or songs or skills. i'm entitled to enjoy whatever someone wants to share with me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No you're not if it's infringing on someone's copyright and you would agree with me if you ever created something you were trying to sell to make a living. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) copyright is an immoral government-enforced monopoly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Immoral? How do creatives make money if everyone is free to copy their work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) by selling it or taking commissions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They're already doing it, you keep saying it's ok not to compensate them for their work and to simply share it by copying the files without any involvement with the original creator. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) yes. this isn't a contradiction at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok, so you're either an idiot or a troll. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago I’ve been dealing with this kid for a while and I can tell you from that experience- They’re both. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No you're not if it's infringing on someone's copyright and you would agree with me if you ever created something you were trying to sell to make a living. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) copyright is an immoral government-enforced monopoly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Immoral? How do creatives make money if everyone is free to copy their work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) by selling it or taking commissions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They're already doing it, you keep saying it's ok not to compensate them for their work and to simply share it by copying the files without any involvement with the original creator. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) yes. this isn't a contradiction at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok, so you're either an idiot or a troll. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago I’ve been dealing with this kid for a while and I can tell you from that experience- They’re both. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) copyright is an immoral government-enforced monopoly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Immoral? How do creatives make money if everyone is free to copy their work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) by selling it or taking commissions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They're already doing it, you keep saying it's ok not to compensate them for their work and to simply share it by copying the files without any involvement with the original creator. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) yes. this isn't a contradiction at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok, so you're either an idiot or a troll. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago I’ve been dealing with this kid for a while and I can tell you from that experience- They’re both. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Immoral? How do creatives make money if everyone is free to copy their work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) by selling it or taking commissions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They're already doing it, you keep saying it's ok not to compensate them for their work and to simply share it by copying the files without any involvement with the original creator. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) yes. this isn't a contradiction at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok, so you're either an idiot or a troll. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago I’ve been dealing with this kid for a while and I can tell you from that experience- They’re both. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) by selling it or taking commissions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They're already doing it, you keep saying it's ok not to compensate them for their work and to simply share it by copying the files without any involvement with the original creator. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) yes. this isn't a contradiction at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok, so you're either an idiot or a troll. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago I’ve been dealing with this kid for a while and I can tell you from that experience- They’re both. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They're already doing it, you keep saying it's ok not to compensate them for their work and to simply share it by copying the files without any involvement with the original creator. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) yes. this isn't a contradiction at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok, so you're either an idiot or a troll. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago I’ve been dealing with this kid for a while and I can tell you from that experience- They’re both. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) yes. this isn't a contradiction at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok, so you're either an idiot or a troll. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago I’ve been dealing with this kid for a while and I can tell you from that experience- They’re both. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok, so you're either an idiot or a troll. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago I’ve been dealing with this kid for a while and I can tell you from that experience- They’re both. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago I’ve been dealing with this kid for a while and I can tell you from that experience- They’re both. permalink fedilink source parent
