▲ 715 ▼ Ron DeSantis Proposes Unprovoked War on Mexico (prospect.org) submitted 3 years ago by tintory@lemm.ee to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 511 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 133 points 3 years ago (8 children) This is literal insanity. Are they going to put Mexican Americans in internment camps next? permalink fedilink source hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] Flinch@hexbear.net 60 points 3 years ago (1 child) The United States already runs multiple concentration camps on the border. Men, women, and children apprehended by CBP or ICE are normally placed in removal proceedings and may be detained in one of the more than 200 jails and detention centers that make up ICE’s detention system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 19 points 3 years ago Sorry but they're called 'Migration Storage Facilities' not Concentration camps by the trustworthy newspaper The New York Times. This obviously means they're not concentration camps. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gabe@literature.cafe 46 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes. That is 100% the end point of this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 years ago Unfortunately, not the end permalink fedilink source parent [–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 38 points 3 years ago (1 child) Probably not this time, a big part of why Japanese-Americans were put into interment camps was because Californians wanted their farms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd never considered this, but of course it came down to economics- weird how often massive crimes against humanity come down to some bourgeois thief wanting to take more for themselves and willing to do anything to do it. Just did a little reading on it, they stole 400 million (1942) dollars worth of farmland from Japanese-Americans, which is like 7 billion adjusted for inflation, and basically just gave them to agribusiness corporations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 3 years ago Yeah they don't tell you in school that white Californians lobbied hard for Japanese Americans to be robbed of all their land and property, and it's a big part of why their lands weren't restored to them after the war. Like western expansion never really stopped. I think they'd be somewhat more likely to use various schemes to enslave Hispanic migrants and citizens, given how vital Hispanic migrants are to American ag. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 28 points 3 years ago No, but the risk of deportation is probably going to increase, including for citizens permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 24 points 3 years ago Probably the plan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wintrparkgrl@beehaw.org 23 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Next? They've already done it with ICE detention centers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Silverseren@kbin.social 19 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not to mention deported American citizens fairly frequently, since they assume any brown person who doesn't have their license on them at the moment is illegally in the country. https://immigrationimpact.com/2021/07/30/ice-deport-us-citizens/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 7 points 3 years ago German Jews' citizenship didn't protect them from the Nazis, who simply revoked their citizenship and then murdered them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] momtheregoesthatman@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago Idk if you meant it as hyperbole... But yes, yes, he is sick enough to try that. And a sliver of even bigger morons would/will vote for him. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Frank@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago They've already got concentration camps full of south and central Americans all over the country. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 60 points 3 years ago (1 child) The United States already runs multiple concentration camps on the border. Men, women, and children apprehended by CBP or ICE are normally placed in removal proceedings and may be detained in one of the more than 200 jails and detention centers that make up ICE’s detention system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 19 points 3 years ago Sorry but they're called 'Migration Storage Facilities' not Concentration camps by the trustworthy newspaper The New York Times. This obviously means they're not concentration camps. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 19 points 3 years ago Sorry but they're called 'Migration Storage Facilities' not Concentration camps by the trustworthy newspaper The New York Times. This obviously means they're not concentration camps. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gabe@literature.cafe 46 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes. That is 100% the end point of this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 years ago Unfortunately, not the end permalink fedilink source parent
[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 years ago Unfortunately, not the end permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 38 points 3 years ago (1 child) Probably not this time, a big part of why Japanese-Americans were put into interment camps was because Californians wanted their farms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd never considered this, but of course it came down to economics- weird how often massive crimes against humanity come down to some bourgeois thief wanting to take more for themselves and willing to do anything to do it. Just did a little reading on it, they stole 400 million (1942) dollars worth of farmland from Japanese-Americans, which is like 7 billion adjusted for inflation, and basically just gave them to agribusiness corporations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 3 years ago Yeah they don't tell you in school that white Californians lobbied hard for Japanese Americans to be robbed of all their land and property, and it's a big part of why their lands weren't restored to them after the war. Like western expansion never really stopped. I think they'd be somewhat more likely to use various schemes to enslave Hispanic migrants and citizens, given how vital Hispanic migrants are to American ag. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd never considered this, but of course it came down to economics- weird how often massive crimes against humanity come down to some bourgeois thief wanting to take more for themselves and willing to do anything to do it. Just did a little reading on it, they stole 400 million (1942) dollars worth of farmland from Japanese-Americans, which is like 7 billion adjusted for inflation, and basically just gave them to agribusiness corporations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 3 years ago Yeah they don't tell you in school that white Californians lobbied hard for Japanese Americans to be robbed of all their land and property, and it's a big part of why their lands weren't restored to them after the war. Like western expansion never really stopped. I think they'd be somewhat more likely to use various schemes to enslave Hispanic migrants and citizens, given how vital Hispanic migrants are to American ag. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 3 years ago Yeah they don't tell you in school that white Californians lobbied hard for Japanese Americans to be robbed of all their land and property, and it's a big part of why their lands weren't restored to them after the war. Like western expansion never really stopped. I think they'd be somewhat more likely to use various schemes to enslave Hispanic migrants and citizens, given how vital Hispanic migrants are to American ag. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 28 points 3 years ago No, but the risk of deportation is probably going to increase, including for citizens permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wintrparkgrl@beehaw.org 23 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Next? They've already done it with ICE detention centers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Silverseren@kbin.social 19 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not to mention deported American citizens fairly frequently, since they assume any brown person who doesn't have their license on them at the moment is illegally in the country. https://immigrationimpact.com/2021/07/30/ice-deport-us-citizens/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 7 points 3 years ago German Jews' citizenship didn't protect them from the Nazis, who simply revoked their citizenship and then murdered them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 19 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not to mention deported American citizens fairly frequently, since they assume any brown person who doesn't have their license on them at the moment is illegally in the country. https://immigrationimpact.com/2021/07/30/ice-deport-us-citizens/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 7 points 3 years ago German Jews' citizenship didn't protect them from the Nazis, who simply revoked their citizenship and then murdered them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 7 points 3 years ago German Jews' citizenship didn't protect them from the Nazis, who simply revoked their citizenship and then murdered them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] momtheregoesthatman@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago Idk if you meant it as hyperbole... But yes, yes, he is sick enough to try that. And a sliver of even bigger morons would/will vote for him. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago They've already got concentration camps full of south and central Americans all over the country. permalink fedilink source parent