Pretty damning review.

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[–] 96 points 3 years ago (3 children)

Their issues are:

  1. Bad data - major errors in review videos
  2. Ethical concerns - conflicts of interest, Billet review, Pwnage review
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  • [+] 196 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (7 children)
  • [–] 60 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    what they did to billet is goddamn evil

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  • [+] -74 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Evil - least sheltered redditor, just an ass

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  • [–] 42 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    ruining a prototype product, talking shit about it, and then selling it is a lot worse than being “just an ass”

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  • [+] -86 points 3 years ago (2 children)
  • [–] 31 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Damn, I thought we had a while before the 14 yr olds showed up on Lemmy.

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  • [+] -45 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Ad hominems, buddy projecting find an argument next time

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Meanwhile you're out here calling people redditors

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  • [–] -4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    So?

    Edit wait are you claiming redditor is an ad hominem? Do you think that migrating to lemmy from reddit for a month puts you so much higher above redditors that u perceive being called one as an attack directed against you??? LMFAOOOOOO

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    the dictionary definition of evil is “morally reprehensible”. you don’t need to overreact by going straight to a godwin

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  • [+] -34 points 3 years ago (1 child)
  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Pink and crimson are both red. But vastly different shades of it

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  • [+] -17 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Deep, so both linus and Hitler are evil ?

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The way they handled the billet situation can be argued to be

    The Linus as a person/ltt as a company as a whole isn't

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  • [–] -3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    So if linus did an evil deed, how we calling hitlers deeds then

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    A darker shade of red

    Side note, people like you are why I miss the karma system and gilding. I can really appreciate a good troll, and used to give gold back in the day. Just know that some people out there are entertained by your work

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Tfw even u know how ridiculous it is to use the same adjective for linus and hitler so u have to resort to metaphors and ad hominems to avoid answering and hide your embarrassment, only ghosting me is left >.< farewell

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Oh, don't worry, I won't ghost you. How's your day been?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Still at deflection stage alright ghosting's postponed for now

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I think that their point that it's an $800 product for a last-gen card, there really isn't anyone out there that should buy this, and therefore it's a bad product is valid. They could have handled the whole thing better and honestly should've just scrapped the video before release.

    Auctioning off the prototype when the company asked for it back is pretty inexcusable. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that it wasn't malicious, but they clearly have problems with internal communication of things like this are happening.

    At any rate, it's going to be a spicy WAN show this week. Linus needs to actually watch the video and address this point-by-point. If he "reads the comments" or cherry picks some of GN's weaker arguments he's just going to end up throwing fuel on the fire.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 years ago

    Then they shouldn't have reviewed it if their decision was made before even holding the product in their hand.

    They could have reviewed it from the point of view of an R&D curiosity with the potential future iterations and cost reductions as the new startup finds their feet. Because, you know, that's what it was. But they decided to shit all over it for dishonest reasons instead.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    I feel that if LMG looked at this product and thought "hey this is really dogshit", the decent thing to do would have been to go back to billet and tell them we can't cover it at all (and cop the loss of few hours as part of running an ethical business)

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    If LMG gave out a prototype for their latest screwdriver to be reviewed and it was onsold, I highly doubt it being called a "mistake" would have sufficed, heads would be rolling

    Feel terrible for Billet and how they were treated here

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago*

    This is hard to believe, it seems too comical.

    I believe you of course, and without accumulating enough about Linus' & LTT's antics I would have doubted you. I wonder what it is that causes these kinds of things to happen. I want to say success but I think there may be something about their ethos. Not what they espouse but what they sorta believe internally.

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  • [–] 48 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Seemed like fair criticism to me, honestly. I enjoy watching LTT, but if they want to be a reliable source of data with "The Lab", they can't continue acting purely as an entertainment company.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Yeah, it was very measured and specific. You could tell he took no pleasure in doing it, the disappointment felt very genuine. It was also a classy move to avoid monetization

    I mean for sure he just got a ton of viewers, but it didn't feel like YouTuber beef or a takedown.

    I think he hints at the real issue a few times when he calls them "the company". It's the issue why I haven't been into Linus for a while - he talks like a capitalist now. He's got plenty of technical opinions, but you can tell he's not keeping up to speed on the tech (he's always getting help from someone off screen) - instead, he's always talking about business.

    He talks about making products, the challenges, plans to expand, the sometimes hard to watch reccounts of changing relationships with his friends turned staff.

    Which is still content, and I am led to believe he genuinely has a commitment to making good products and standing by them. But I'm not into that. I don't find it interesting, and I find myself skeptical of his technical judgement and less able to identify with him

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