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Swedish music stars call for Israel Eurovision ban over Gaza (www.theguardian.com)
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[โ€“] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Germany is one of the biggest humanitarian donators and took many refugees from the region. The foreign ministry refused to call it a Holocaust - which is just on another level. The commitee of the Herero and Nama also critisized the critique on germany as populistic and without legal basis and double standard. The defense of Israel is a state doctrine, also based on history, so it might be a little more complicated than a simple good and bad.

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 2 years ago

    Germany is also a major supplier of weapons and military tech to Israel. This includes donating submarines, where the specs are secret, but it is likely submarines capeable of launching nuclear missiles.

    Most of the humanitarian infrastructure got destroyed by Israel multiple times and Germany also announced to stop UNRWA funding over the allegations against 10 former UNRWA employees. Nobody demanded them to speak of "Holocaust" in relationship to Gaza, but acknowledging that it is possible that Israel ist intending to commit genocide, is commiting genocide and most definetely has been commiting a great deal of war crimes, is repeatedly rejected by the German government.

    The "state doctrine" shows exactly where the problem lies. Germany is using Israel as "proof" of having learned from its past and is happy to commit and help commiting atrocities in the name of Israel. Jews that are critical of Israel are excluded from public discourse, are excluded from arts and culture, have their rights to demonstrations taken away, are accused of antisemitism and in one case also jailed for demonstrating against Israels war on Gaza. So the German government is even commiting many acts of antisemitism while claiming to defend people from antisemitism. Also antisemitism that is rampant in Germanys mainstream society is defendend and pushed under the rug, while trying to paint antisemitism as an issue "imported" through migration from muslim countries.

    Here is an articel that goes in depth about it, and provides numerous examples. For instance the former head of the interior intelligence, that is supposed to fight political extremism has been initially defended by the federal anti-antisemitism officer. Meanwhile he was and still is spurting antisemitic conspiracies on twitter.

    https://jewishcurrents.org/the-strange-logic-of-germanys-antisemitism-bureaucrats

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Oh, right, charity.

    I grew up with the stories about how in Fascist Portugal the "ladies" of the handful of priviledged families who exploited a crushingly poor country were big charitable givers.

    Act with cold calous cruelty but all it takes is to give away some crumbs and socially you're lauded as a moral paragon.

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  • [โ€“] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Funny that you compare Germany to fascist dictators now, its one of the few countries which actually worked its past and acknowledged it. Support for a Israel is a double sided sword in that regard, just dropping them is definitely not an option. Germany currently houses 3.3 million refugees and paid over 24 billion in foreign aid. Honestly, what do you expect?

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    It's pretty obvious from its continued and unwavering support for a nation led by Fascists who openly describe as "human animals" the neigbouring people from a different etnicity which they have oppressed for over half a century and are now outright massacring, commiting all manner of war crimes in doing so, that the "never again" that the German elites claimed to have learned is not at all the Humanist "nothing like this should ever be allowed to happen again to any people because of their etnicity" (which would see Germany react towards Israel as they did towards Russia when it invaded Ukraine) but rather the very specific and Racist "We should not have done that to Jews".

    I too used to believe as you do, but what we are seeing right now in their actions, especially the massive contrast in their reaction to the victimizing of the Ukranians by Russia and the already much larger victimizing of Palestinians by Israel, is that whatever the German leadership has "learned" was not the Humanitarian Principle but something else altogether and the most obvious explanation for their very overt support of the Genociders in this specific situation is that it depends on the etnicity of the victims and the perpetrators whether such a massacre is acceptable or not in the eyes of said German leadership, which is pure, unadulterated, racism.

    At this point Germany is activelly siding with Fascists doing the same style of action as the Nazis (though not yet the scope, but the continuing blocade of Food, Water & Energy to Gaza might very well lead to that). That is not the actions of a land whose leadership has genuinelly learned the lesson that massacring people because of their etnicity is Evil.

    When it really mattered Germany showed that not only it's doesn't at all care for the plight of the victims but even activelly supports the genociders if the etnicity of the victims is not a favored one whilst that of the genociders is. One can then only conclude that all that "charity" was not done for humanist reasons (no humanist would support Israel after all they've done in the last month) and must have been the other reason for overtly doing "charity" - the cold and calculated managing of the image one projects.

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