▲ 86 ▼ The Ukraine War might really break up the Russian Federation (thehill.com) submitted 3 years ago by SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee to c/news@lemmy.world 11 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 years ago (2 children) Is this just western pundits playing with "what if" scenarios, or are there actually signs of major splits inside Russia? permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee [S] 19 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I'll bite, here's a little list of the top of my head. They've had a failed invasion of Ukraine Rampant corruption Putin is getting old and frail Russia has a struggling economy where "Fortress Russia" is starting to fall short Drone strikes from Ukraine have been able to target major Russian cities. There was a mini-coup attempt by one of Putin's closest allies where a standing army nearly made it to Moscow while shooting down multiple Russian military aircraft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 years ago (2 children) The linked article hypothesizes "a rump Russia reduced to the area bounded by St. Petersburg, Moscow and Nizhny Novgorod." Even given the country's struggles, I have a hard time imagining large chunks of Russia breaking away. My question is whether there is evidence to believe that kind of split has become a real possibility. Neither Putin nor his successor would allow it without a serious fight given the immense value of the natural resources and sea ports Russia would lose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago They're getting pushed back in Ukraine 400 km from Moscow, I think the Muscovites would have a hard time sustaining logistics 5000 km away in Siberia. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Devious_Thoughts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago Imo, anyone who's going to try to break away from Russia, ahem Serbia, would wait until Russia's military collapses before they make any official announcements. But plenty of Russian allies have secretly worked against Russia itself, won't be long before they're all doing it as overtly as Turkey's Erdogan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] motorheadkusanagi@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's an opinion piece permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago Wel that's just your opinion, man... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee [S] 19 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I'll bite, here's a little list of the top of my head. They've had a failed invasion of Ukraine Rampant corruption Putin is getting old and frail Russia has a struggling economy where "Fortress Russia" is starting to fall short Drone strikes from Ukraine have been able to target major Russian cities. There was a mini-coup attempt by one of Putin's closest allies where a standing army nearly made it to Moscow while shooting down multiple Russian military aircraft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 years ago (2 children) The linked article hypothesizes "a rump Russia reduced to the area bounded by St. Petersburg, Moscow and Nizhny Novgorod." Even given the country's struggles, I have a hard time imagining large chunks of Russia breaking away. My question is whether there is evidence to believe that kind of split has become a real possibility. Neither Putin nor his successor would allow it without a serious fight given the immense value of the natural resources and sea ports Russia would lose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago They're getting pushed back in Ukraine 400 km from Moscow, I think the Muscovites would have a hard time sustaining logistics 5000 km away in Siberia. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Devious_Thoughts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago Imo, anyone who's going to try to break away from Russia, ahem Serbia, would wait until Russia's military collapses before they make any official announcements. But plenty of Russian allies have secretly worked against Russia itself, won't be long before they're all doing it as overtly as Turkey's Erdogan. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 years ago (2 children) The linked article hypothesizes "a rump Russia reduced to the area bounded by St. Petersburg, Moscow and Nizhny Novgorod." Even given the country's struggles, I have a hard time imagining large chunks of Russia breaking away. My question is whether there is evidence to believe that kind of split has become a real possibility. Neither Putin nor his successor would allow it without a serious fight given the immense value of the natural resources and sea ports Russia would lose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago They're getting pushed back in Ukraine 400 km from Moscow, I think the Muscovites would have a hard time sustaining logistics 5000 km away in Siberia. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Devious_Thoughts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago Imo, anyone who's going to try to break away from Russia, ahem Serbia, would wait until Russia's military collapses before they make any official announcements. But plenty of Russian allies have secretly worked against Russia itself, won't be long before they're all doing it as overtly as Turkey's Erdogan. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago They're getting pushed back in Ukraine 400 km from Moscow, I think the Muscovites would have a hard time sustaining logistics 5000 km away in Siberia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Devious_Thoughts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago Imo, anyone who's going to try to break away from Russia, ahem Serbia, would wait until Russia's military collapses before they make any official announcements. But plenty of Russian allies have secretly worked against Russia itself, won't be long before they're all doing it as overtly as Turkey's Erdogan. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] motorheadkusanagi@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's an opinion piece permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago Wel that's just your opinion, man... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago Wel that's just your opinion, man... permalink fedilink source parent