▲ 405 ▼ Microsoft stole my Chrome tabs, and it wants yours, too (www.theverge.com) submitted 2 years ago by misk@sopuli.xyz to c/technology@lemmy.world 207 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 96 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's a word for software that does actions without the user's permission or knowledge. That word is MALWARE permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Daxtron2@startrek.website -27 points 2 years ago (4 children) Every piece of software does things without your permission or knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago If it does what you wanted it to when you installed it, it's doing things with your permission. If what it was going to do was clearly and correctly explained during the download or install process, it's doing things with your knowledge. It's like a motor vehicle. You don't need to know how an internal combustion engine works to be able to give informed consent about driving it, but if it starts rolling away after you park it, you're going to either get it fixed or get a new car. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You understand and give explicit permission for every piece of the kernel? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you trust Microsoft? If you do I might suggest we find you a nice quiet padded room. Imagine someone attempted to (or even succeeded in) pushing malicious (or even just poor, "bad" code into the kernel. What do you suppose would happen? Oh wait we don't have to imagine. Some people tried, and got admonished publicly. https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/30/22410164/linux-kernel-university-of-minnesota-banned-open-source permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago Who said anything about trusting Microsoft? No piece of software is going to ask you for permission for every single operation it does. Malware is more than just that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] meekah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) This is beyond pedantic. You and everybody else knows exactly what they meant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If we're going to call something malware we better be damn sure we understand the definitions of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Good news! The original comment provides that! software that does actions without the user’s permission or knowledge permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) And yet still all software does that! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're delusional. Have a nice day though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago Delusional for understanding that all software does things without your explicit permission to do them? Lol ok permalink fedilink source parent [+] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Daxtron2@startrek.website -27 points 2 years ago (4 children) Every piece of software does things without your permission or knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago If it does what you wanted it to when you installed it, it's doing things with your permission. If what it was going to do was clearly and correctly explained during the download or install process, it's doing things with your knowledge. It's like a motor vehicle. You don't need to know how an internal combustion engine works to be able to give informed consent about driving it, but if it starts rolling away after you park it, you're going to either get it fixed or get a new car. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You understand and give explicit permission for every piece of the kernel? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you trust Microsoft? If you do I might suggest we find you a nice quiet padded room. Imagine someone attempted to (or even succeeded in) pushing malicious (or even just poor, "bad" code into the kernel. What do you suppose would happen? Oh wait we don't have to imagine. Some people tried, and got admonished publicly. https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/30/22410164/linux-kernel-university-of-minnesota-banned-open-source permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago Who said anything about trusting Microsoft? No piece of software is going to ask you for permission for every single operation it does. Malware is more than just that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] meekah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) This is beyond pedantic. You and everybody else knows exactly what they meant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If we're going to call something malware we better be damn sure we understand the definitions of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Good news! The original comment provides that! software that does actions without the user’s permission or knowledge permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) And yet still all software does that! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're delusional. Have a nice day though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago Delusional for understanding that all software does things without your explicit permission to do them? Lol ok permalink fedilink source parent [+] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago If it does what you wanted it to when you installed it, it's doing things with your permission. If what it was going to do was clearly and correctly explained during the download or install process, it's doing things with your knowledge. It's like a motor vehicle. You don't need to know how an internal combustion engine works to be able to give informed consent about driving it, but if it starts rolling away after you park it, you're going to either get it fixed or get a new car. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You understand and give explicit permission for every piece of the kernel? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you trust Microsoft? If you do I might suggest we find you a nice quiet padded room. Imagine someone attempted to (or even succeeded in) pushing malicious (or even just poor, "bad" code into the kernel. What do you suppose would happen? Oh wait we don't have to imagine. Some people tried, and got admonished publicly. https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/30/22410164/linux-kernel-university-of-minnesota-banned-open-source permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago Who said anything about trusting Microsoft? No piece of software is going to ask you for permission for every single operation it does. Malware is more than just that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You understand and give explicit permission for every piece of the kernel? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you trust Microsoft? If you do I might suggest we find you a nice quiet padded room. Imagine someone attempted to (or even succeeded in) pushing malicious (or even just poor, "bad" code into the kernel. What do you suppose would happen? Oh wait we don't have to imagine. Some people tried, and got admonished publicly. https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/30/22410164/linux-kernel-university-of-minnesota-banned-open-source permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago Who said anything about trusting Microsoft? No piece of software is going to ask you for permission for every single operation it does. Malware is more than just that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you trust Microsoft? If you do I might suggest we find you a nice quiet padded room. Imagine someone attempted to (or even succeeded in) pushing malicious (or even just poor, "bad" code into the kernel. What do you suppose would happen? Oh wait we don't have to imagine. Some people tried, and got admonished publicly. https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/30/22410164/linux-kernel-university-of-minnesota-banned-open-source permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago Who said anything about trusting Microsoft? No piece of software is going to ask you for permission for every single operation it does. Malware is more than just that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago Who said anything about trusting Microsoft? No piece of software is going to ask you for permission for every single operation it does. Malware is more than just that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meekah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) This is beyond pedantic. You and everybody else knows exactly what they meant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If we're going to call something malware we better be damn sure we understand the definitions of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Good news! The original comment provides that! software that does actions without the user’s permission or knowledge permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) And yet still all software does that! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're delusional. Have a nice day though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago Delusional for understanding that all software does things without your explicit permission to do them? Lol ok permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If we're going to call something malware we better be damn sure we understand the definitions of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Good news! The original comment provides that! software that does actions without the user’s permission or knowledge permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) And yet still all software does that! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're delusional. Have a nice day though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago Delusional for understanding that all software does things without your explicit permission to do them? Lol ok permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Good news! The original comment provides that! software that does actions without the user’s permission or knowledge permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) And yet still all software does that! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're delusional. Have a nice day though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago Delusional for understanding that all software does things without your explicit permission to do them? Lol ok permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) And yet still all software does that! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're delusional. Have a nice day though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago Delusional for understanding that all software does things without your explicit permission to do them? Lol ok permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're delusional. Have a nice day though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago Delusional for understanding that all software does things without your explicit permission to do them? Lol ok permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago Delusional for understanding that all software does things without your explicit permission to do them? Lol ok permalink fedilink source parent