▲ 411 ▼ The Supreme Court Has Itself to Blame for Texas Defying Its Orders (www.theatlantic.com) submitted 2 years ago* by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/politics@lemmy.world 135 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (4 children) You're aware hundreds of thousands were killed during the Civil War, right? I, for one, would love to see a resolution without bloodshed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) One side of the political spectrum has proven that they are willing to kill to get what they want. Not sure how it will turn out but there's already bloodshed. The question is how much bloodshed are we willing to see before we do something about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago That's precisely the reason a peaceful outcome should be reached. Rather than advocating for an extreme escalation in violence to "own" the other side. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) I would love to see our national problems solved peacefully but the same republicans pushing for civil war in Texas are the same people who also have been obstructing Congress from doing the will of the people for the last 15 years. They're the same people who tried to overthrow the government when Trump lost to Biden. Have you been living under a rock, or just idealistic? It might be time to get a bag ready. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) If advocating against a civil war makes me idealistic, then so be it. Anyone who thinks a civil war is necessary and appropriate is ignorant of the cost of war. They should honestly ask themselves if they would truly back up their words with actions, or do they only hold those feelings behind the safety of a screen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Right, just context permalink fedilink source parent [–] skulblaka@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago If I'm going to get shot at by some AR-toting bigot, or I'm going to get shot at by an AR-toting bigot that I'm returning fire on, I'll take the second choice 10/10 times. These people have proven that they are willing and able to use violence to accomplish their goals. Waiting calmly for them to do so is a recipe for dying without anything to show for it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Masterblaster@kbin.social -4 points 2 years ago we're dooming untold generations yet to be born if we don't take quick decisive action. i'd sacrifice 10 million to save 20 billion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* “The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots from time to time.” I’m quoting this as though I’m brave enough to go die in some urban street combat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Masterblaster@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) me too. spoiler: there isn't one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I dearly hope cooler heads than yours prevail. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) One side of the political spectrum has proven that they are willing to kill to get what they want. Not sure how it will turn out but there's already bloodshed. The question is how much bloodshed are we willing to see before we do something about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago That's precisely the reason a peaceful outcome should be reached. Rather than advocating for an extreme escalation in violence to "own" the other side. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago That's precisely the reason a peaceful outcome should be reached. Rather than advocating for an extreme escalation in violence to "own" the other side. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) I would love to see our national problems solved peacefully but the same republicans pushing for civil war in Texas are the same people who also have been obstructing Congress from doing the will of the people for the last 15 years. They're the same people who tried to overthrow the government when Trump lost to Biden. Have you been living under a rock, or just idealistic? It might be time to get a bag ready. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) If advocating against a civil war makes me idealistic, then so be it. Anyone who thinks a civil war is necessary and appropriate is ignorant of the cost of war. They should honestly ask themselves if they would truly back up their words with actions, or do they only hold those feelings behind the safety of a screen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Right, just context permalink fedilink source parent [–] skulblaka@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago If I'm going to get shot at by some AR-toting bigot, or I'm going to get shot at by an AR-toting bigot that I'm returning fire on, I'll take the second choice 10/10 times. These people have proven that they are willing and able to use violence to accomplish their goals. Waiting calmly for them to do so is a recipe for dying without anything to show for it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Masterblaster@kbin.social -4 points 2 years ago we're dooming untold generations yet to be born if we don't take quick decisive action. i'd sacrifice 10 million to save 20 billion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) If advocating against a civil war makes me idealistic, then so be it. Anyone who thinks a civil war is necessary and appropriate is ignorant of the cost of war. They should honestly ask themselves if they would truly back up their words with actions, or do they only hold those feelings behind the safety of a screen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Right, just context permalink fedilink source parent [–] skulblaka@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago If I'm going to get shot at by some AR-toting bigot, or I'm going to get shot at by an AR-toting bigot that I'm returning fire on, I'll take the second choice 10/10 times. These people have proven that they are willing and able to use violence to accomplish their goals. Waiting calmly for them to do so is a recipe for dying without anything to show for it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Right, just context permalink fedilink source parent
[–] skulblaka@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago If I'm going to get shot at by some AR-toting bigot, or I'm going to get shot at by an AR-toting bigot that I'm returning fire on, I'll take the second choice 10/10 times. These people have proven that they are willing and able to use violence to accomplish their goals. Waiting calmly for them to do so is a recipe for dying without anything to show for it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Masterblaster@kbin.social -4 points 2 years ago we're dooming untold generations yet to be born if we don't take quick decisive action. i'd sacrifice 10 million to save 20 billion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* “The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots from time to time.” I’m quoting this as though I’m brave enough to go die in some urban street combat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Masterblaster@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) me too. spoiler: there isn't one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I dearly hope cooler heads than yours prevail. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I dearly hope cooler heads than yours prevail. permalink fedilink source parent