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[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 57 points 2 years ago (1 child) Relevant XKCD permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (3 children) Some recent studies point that bacon is not that bad if you not mix it with a lot of carbos permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) It’s cured fatty meat. Too much of it isn’t going to be great no matter what you do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago (4 children) The thing is, fat isn't all that bad for you. The idea that fat is unhealthy is mostly dead outside of sugar lobbyists. It's sugar that you really have to look out for. Salt is also likely not as bad as reporting used to make it out to be. It causes short term blood pressure increases, but potentially not long term and also we don't know the direction of causation with that and heart disease. Basically, don't over-indulge, but bacon probably isn't going to kill you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 7 points 2 years ago Fat isn't just one thing. There are absolutely fats that are very unhealthy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Heart disease causes you to eat more salt? Shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago This made me laugh but, in case it's not a joke, I meant high BP causing heart disease, heart disease causing high BP, or them both being caused by something else related. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Basically, don't over-indulge, but sugar probably isn't going to kill you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cophater69@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Animal fat that has been cooked to temperature is absolutely fucking horrible for you. You're thinking of plant-based omega-fats which are essential for health. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wowbagger_@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I haven't heard that before, do you have a source where I could read more? I know fish at least is high in omega-3s... What is it about cooking the fat that makes it bad, and does that mean raw or rendered fats are fine? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago There's some evidence some animal fats may be the cause of cardiovascular disease, but it isn't great. There are a lot of confounding factors involved. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6053258/#sec-a.d.jtitle (There's a lot more detail above where this links, but I linked to the end.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Weren’t there studies that showed it’s linked to increased risk of cancer? Even all processed meat like hot dogs and sausages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Yeah, nitrates can be a problem, I was thinking about saturated fat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago Mmm, nitrates. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Red meat and nitrate salts are still not great. It's not as bad as the internet wellness influencers say it is, but if your other option for breakfast is oatmeal, then bacon is a bad choice for heart health. But if your other option is breakfast sausage, then yeah, bacon isn't too bad of an option. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (3 children) Some recent studies point that bacon is not that bad if you not mix it with a lot of carbos permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) It’s cured fatty meat. Too much of it isn’t going to be great no matter what you do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago (4 children) The thing is, fat isn't all that bad for you. The idea that fat is unhealthy is mostly dead outside of sugar lobbyists. It's sugar that you really have to look out for. Salt is also likely not as bad as reporting used to make it out to be. It causes short term blood pressure increases, but potentially not long term and also we don't know the direction of causation with that and heart disease. Basically, don't over-indulge, but bacon probably isn't going to kill you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 7 points 2 years ago Fat isn't just one thing. There are absolutely fats that are very unhealthy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Heart disease causes you to eat more salt? Shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago This made me laugh but, in case it's not a joke, I meant high BP causing heart disease, heart disease causing high BP, or them both being caused by something else related. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Basically, don't over-indulge, but sugar probably isn't going to kill you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cophater69@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Animal fat that has been cooked to temperature is absolutely fucking horrible for you. You're thinking of plant-based omega-fats which are essential for health. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wowbagger_@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I haven't heard that before, do you have a source where I could read more? I know fish at least is high in omega-3s... What is it about cooking the fat that makes it bad, and does that mean raw or rendered fats are fine? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago There's some evidence some animal fats may be the cause of cardiovascular disease, but it isn't great. There are a lot of confounding factors involved. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6053258/#sec-a.d.jtitle (There's a lot more detail above where this links, but I linked to the end.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Weren’t there studies that showed it’s linked to increased risk of cancer? Even all processed meat like hot dogs and sausages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Yeah, nitrates can be a problem, I was thinking about saturated fat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago Mmm, nitrates. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Red meat and nitrate salts are still not great. It's not as bad as the internet wellness influencers say it is, but if your other option for breakfast is oatmeal, then bacon is a bad choice for heart health. But if your other option is breakfast sausage, then yeah, bacon isn't too bad of an option. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) It’s cured fatty meat. Too much of it isn’t going to be great no matter what you do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago (4 children) The thing is, fat isn't all that bad for you. The idea that fat is unhealthy is mostly dead outside of sugar lobbyists. It's sugar that you really have to look out for. Salt is also likely not as bad as reporting used to make it out to be. It causes short term blood pressure increases, but potentially not long term and also we don't know the direction of causation with that and heart disease. Basically, don't over-indulge, but bacon probably isn't going to kill you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 7 points 2 years ago Fat isn't just one thing. There are absolutely fats that are very unhealthy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Heart disease causes you to eat more salt? Shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago This made me laugh but, in case it's not a joke, I meant high BP causing heart disease, heart disease causing high BP, or them both being caused by something else related. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Basically, don't over-indulge, but sugar probably isn't going to kill you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cophater69@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Animal fat that has been cooked to temperature is absolutely fucking horrible for you. You're thinking of plant-based omega-fats which are essential for health. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wowbagger_@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I haven't heard that before, do you have a source where I could read more? I know fish at least is high in omega-3s... What is it about cooking the fat that makes it bad, and does that mean raw or rendered fats are fine? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago There's some evidence some animal fats may be the cause of cardiovascular disease, but it isn't great. There are a lot of confounding factors involved. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6053258/#sec-a.d.jtitle (There's a lot more detail above where this links, but I linked to the end.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago (4 children) The thing is, fat isn't all that bad for you. The idea that fat is unhealthy is mostly dead outside of sugar lobbyists. It's sugar that you really have to look out for. Salt is also likely not as bad as reporting used to make it out to be. It causes short term blood pressure increases, but potentially not long term and also we don't know the direction of causation with that and heart disease. Basically, don't over-indulge, but bacon probably isn't going to kill you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 7 points 2 years ago Fat isn't just one thing. There are absolutely fats that are very unhealthy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Heart disease causes you to eat more salt? Shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago This made me laugh but, in case it's not a joke, I meant high BP causing heart disease, heart disease causing high BP, or them both being caused by something else related. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Basically, don't over-indulge, but sugar probably isn't going to kill you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cophater69@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Animal fat that has been cooked to temperature is absolutely fucking horrible for you. You're thinking of plant-based omega-fats which are essential for health. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wowbagger_@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I haven't heard that before, do you have a source where I could read more? I know fish at least is high in omega-3s... What is it about cooking the fat that makes it bad, and does that mean raw or rendered fats are fine? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago There's some evidence some animal fats may be the cause of cardiovascular disease, but it isn't great. There are a lot of confounding factors involved. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6053258/#sec-a.d.jtitle (There's a lot more detail above where this links, but I linked to the end.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 7 points 2 years ago Fat isn't just one thing. There are absolutely fats that are very unhealthy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Heart disease causes you to eat more salt? Shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago This made me laugh but, in case it's not a joke, I meant high BP causing heart disease, heart disease causing high BP, or them both being caused by something else related. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago This made me laugh but, in case it's not a joke, I meant high BP causing heart disease, heart disease causing high BP, or them both being caused by something else related. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Basically, don't over-indulge, but sugar probably isn't going to kill you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cophater69@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Animal fat that has been cooked to temperature is absolutely fucking horrible for you. You're thinking of plant-based omega-fats which are essential for health. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wowbagger_@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I haven't heard that before, do you have a source where I could read more? I know fish at least is high in omega-3s... What is it about cooking the fat that makes it bad, and does that mean raw or rendered fats are fine? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago There's some evidence some animal fats may be the cause of cardiovascular disease, but it isn't great. There are a lot of confounding factors involved. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6053258/#sec-a.d.jtitle (There's a lot more detail above where this links, but I linked to the end.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wowbagger_@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I haven't heard that before, do you have a source where I could read more? I know fish at least is high in omega-3s... What is it about cooking the fat that makes it bad, and does that mean raw or rendered fats are fine? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago There's some evidence some animal fats may be the cause of cardiovascular disease, but it isn't great. There are a lot of confounding factors involved. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6053258/#sec-a.d.jtitle (There's a lot more detail above where this links, but I linked to the end.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Weren’t there studies that showed it’s linked to increased risk of cancer? Even all processed meat like hot dogs and sausages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Yeah, nitrates can be a problem, I was thinking about saturated fat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago Mmm, nitrates. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Yeah, nitrates can be a problem, I was thinking about saturated fat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago Mmm, nitrates. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Red meat and nitrate salts are still not great. It's not as bad as the internet wellness influencers say it is, but if your other option for breakfast is oatmeal, then bacon is a bad choice for heart health. But if your other option is breakfast sausage, then yeah, bacon isn't too bad of an option. permalink fedilink source parent
