▲ 177 ▼ GOP sees turnout disaster without Trump (thehill.com) submitted 3 years ago by YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 47 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 57 points 3 years ago (3 children) They made a deal with the devil, and now they panic because they need to pay up. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Rilichu@lemmy.world 22 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The GOP gladly let their party turn into a cult and very few cults manage to live on after its leader is dead/no longer viable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wiz@midwest.social 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) It was probably worth it to them since they locked the Supreme Court for a generation at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 point 3 years ago If they lose everything after, the court has little power. They can just change the laws. As it stands, the court has lots of power as they struggle to change laws with house and presidency changing back and forth. permalink fedilink source parent [–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world [S] 17 points 3 years ago (2 children) A true rival conservative party, one not devoted to religion, could break through if one existed. I do think the shift is actually left and progressives will form the next second party and the Democratic Party will be the moderate / right party in the future. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah, there’s room for something like the republicans were as the Whigs collapsed to rise, but if not there will likely be a democratic splinter into something like a labor/progressive party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world [S] 7 points 3 years ago I think Gen Z would like that, but it will be a tough road. The GOP looks to die with Boomers and it won't be replaced. Libratarians might get MAGA, but it will continue to be a third party. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) As a person who would be on the increasingly-poorly-defined "right" in this instance, that sounds dope AF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 3 years ago I've been planted in the center for a long time, but an anti business left is growing. I personally don't see long term success, I do see young support for breaking things up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davi@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) they've been ready for him; that's why most republicans very publicly kiss his ass; all in the hopes that they don't draw ire when he is inevitably made ineligible to run. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davi@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago these engagements always go the same way, so here's a copy/paste from somewhere else: since you’re clearly digging in your heels; i’m going to try to undercut your next arguments since they are always the same three from the deeply ignorant liberal crowd: biden recently defended his decisions on all three plus multiple more shitty decisions; so it doesn’t matter how long ago he said it or made those laws. biden refused to change his mind all the way up until his presidential campaign and has a solid history of changing his mind but only once it becomes politically convenient for him; so he didn’t “evolve” or get better, he just knows that trump is weaker on this topic and uses your ignorance about his past of truly horrific anti-lgbtq/black/poor history to get your vote. Additionally: no, dunking on gays for easy politically points in the past wasn’t popular, many politicians (eg bernie sanders) never did it. his beliefs are the reason why he’s not bothering to improve anything, especially on the student loan debt. also: yes there are many things he can do even though congress is trying to block him; but he won’t do it no matter what. (google these too) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rilichu@lemmy.world 22 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The GOP gladly let their party turn into a cult and very few cults manage to live on after its leader is dead/no longer viable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wiz@midwest.social 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) It was probably worth it to them since they locked the Supreme Court for a generation at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 point 3 years ago If they lose everything after, the court has little power. They can just change the laws. As it stands, the court has lots of power as they struggle to change laws with house and presidency changing back and forth. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wiz@midwest.social 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) It was probably worth it to them since they locked the Supreme Court for a generation at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 point 3 years ago If they lose everything after, the court has little power. They can just change the laws. As it stands, the court has lots of power as they struggle to change laws with house and presidency changing back and forth. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 point 3 years ago If they lose everything after, the court has little power. They can just change the laws. As it stands, the court has lots of power as they struggle to change laws with house and presidency changing back and forth. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world [S] 17 points 3 years ago (2 children) A true rival conservative party, one not devoted to religion, could break through if one existed. I do think the shift is actually left and progressives will form the next second party and the Democratic Party will be the moderate / right party in the future. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah, there’s room for something like the republicans were as the Whigs collapsed to rise, but if not there will likely be a democratic splinter into something like a labor/progressive party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world [S] 7 points 3 years ago I think Gen Z would like that, but it will be a tough road. The GOP looks to die with Boomers and it won't be replaced. Libratarians might get MAGA, but it will continue to be a third party. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) As a person who would be on the increasingly-poorly-defined "right" in this instance, that sounds dope AF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 3 years ago I've been planted in the center for a long time, but an anti business left is growing. I personally don't see long term success, I do see young support for breaking things up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah, there’s room for something like the republicans were as the Whigs collapsed to rise, but if not there will likely be a democratic splinter into something like a labor/progressive party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world [S] 7 points 3 years ago I think Gen Z would like that, but it will be a tough road. The GOP looks to die with Boomers and it won't be replaced. Libratarians might get MAGA, but it will continue to be a third party. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world [S] 7 points 3 years ago I think Gen Z would like that, but it will be a tough road. The GOP looks to die with Boomers and it won't be replaced. Libratarians might get MAGA, but it will continue to be a third party. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) As a person who would be on the increasingly-poorly-defined "right" in this instance, that sounds dope AF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 3 years ago I've been planted in the center for a long time, but an anti business left is growing. I personally don't see long term success, I do see young support for breaking things up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 3 years ago I've been planted in the center for a long time, but an anti business left is growing. I personally don't see long term success, I do see young support for breaking things up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davi@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) they've been ready for him; that's why most republicans very publicly kiss his ass; all in the hopes that they don't draw ire when he is inevitably made ineligible to run. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davi@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago these engagements always go the same way, so here's a copy/paste from somewhere else: since you’re clearly digging in your heels; i’m going to try to undercut your next arguments since they are always the same three from the deeply ignorant liberal crowd: biden recently defended his decisions on all three plus multiple more shitty decisions; so it doesn’t matter how long ago he said it or made those laws. biden refused to change his mind all the way up until his presidential campaign and has a solid history of changing his mind but only once it becomes politically convenient for him; so he didn’t “evolve” or get better, he just knows that trump is weaker on this topic and uses your ignorance about his past of truly horrific anti-lgbtq/black/poor history to get your vote. Additionally: no, dunking on gays for easy politically points in the past wasn’t popular, many politicians (eg bernie sanders) never did it. his beliefs are the reason why he’s not bothering to improve anything, especially on the student loan debt. also: yes there are many things he can do even though congress is trying to block him; but he won’t do it no matter what. (google these too) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davi@lemm.ee -5 points 3 years ago these engagements always go the same way, so here's a copy/paste from somewhere else: since you’re clearly digging in your heels; i’m going to try to undercut your next arguments since they are always the same three from the deeply ignorant liberal crowd: biden recently defended his decisions on all three plus multiple more shitty decisions; so it doesn’t matter how long ago he said it or made those laws. biden refused to change his mind all the way up until his presidential campaign and has a solid history of changing his mind but only once it becomes politically convenient for him; so he didn’t “evolve” or get better, he just knows that trump is weaker on this topic and uses your ignorance about his past of truly horrific anti-lgbtq/black/poor history to get your vote. Additionally: no, dunking on gays for easy politically points in the past wasn’t popular, many politicians (eg bernie sanders) never did it. his beliefs are the reason why he’s not bothering to improve anything, especially on the student loan debt. also: yes there are many things he can do even though congress is trying to block him; but he won’t do it no matter what. (google these too) permalink fedilink source parent