▲ 209 ▼ Shazam’ Star Zachary Levi Calls Out Hollywood For Output Of “Garbage” Content (deadline.com) submitted 3 years ago by nieceandtows@programming.dev to c/moviesandtv@lemmy.film 73 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Plan 9 From Outer Space is a terrible movie. Ed Wood is amazing. I'm sure you can tell the difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't know what you expect to accomplish with this. If you want to make an argument by example, be prepared to make it exhaustive, otherwise it's simply anecdotal. Anecdotes does not an argument make. My point is that this is a very subjective realm. You can know all you want about technique and still make a bad movie. And someone who knows nothing can still make a good movie. The odds don't work in their favor, sure, but it's possible. Technique just helps, but it's neither a requirement nor a guarantee. And part of determining whether a film is done well is knowing the film's purpose and theme. Cult classics exist for a reason. They aren't "bad." They're just not popular with folks who didn't get it. You will always be colored by your biases. You can not like a film but that doesn't mean it was unnecessary. You aren't an authority as much as you want to pretend to the throne. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.one -2 points 3 years ago (2 children) It's not at all subjective and, again, if you doubt that, sit down and watch Plan 9 and Ed Wood back to back. One is generally accepted to be the worst film ever made, the other won two Academy Awards. If you legit can't tell why which film falls into which category, you're precisely the problem I outlined in A) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* I feel like you just like hearing yourself talk because you clearly ignored almost everything I said. If you're going to act like a brick wall, there's no point in discussion until you even come close to remotely acknowledging any of my points let alone refuting them. I get you took a film class. It doesn't make you an auteur. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cre0@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago it’s entirely subjective after you clear some very basic benchmarks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't know what you expect to accomplish with this. If you want to make an argument by example, be prepared to make it exhaustive, otherwise it's simply anecdotal. Anecdotes does not an argument make. My point is that this is a very subjective realm. You can know all you want about technique and still make a bad movie. And someone who knows nothing can still make a good movie. The odds don't work in their favor, sure, but it's possible. Technique just helps, but it's neither a requirement nor a guarantee. And part of determining whether a film is done well is knowing the film's purpose and theme. Cult classics exist for a reason. They aren't "bad." They're just not popular with folks who didn't get it. You will always be colored by your biases. You can not like a film but that doesn't mean it was unnecessary. You aren't an authority as much as you want to pretend to the throne. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.one -2 points 3 years ago (2 children) It's not at all subjective and, again, if you doubt that, sit down and watch Plan 9 and Ed Wood back to back. One is generally accepted to be the worst film ever made, the other won two Academy Awards. If you legit can't tell why which film falls into which category, you're precisely the problem I outlined in A) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* I feel like you just like hearing yourself talk because you clearly ignored almost everything I said. If you're going to act like a brick wall, there's no point in discussion until you even come close to remotely acknowledging any of my points let alone refuting them. I get you took a film class. It doesn't make you an auteur. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cre0@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago it’s entirely subjective after you clear some very basic benchmarks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one -2 points 3 years ago (2 children) It's not at all subjective and, again, if you doubt that, sit down and watch Plan 9 and Ed Wood back to back. One is generally accepted to be the worst film ever made, the other won two Academy Awards. If you legit can't tell why which film falls into which category, you're precisely the problem I outlined in A) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* I feel like you just like hearing yourself talk because you clearly ignored almost everything I said. If you're going to act like a brick wall, there's no point in discussion until you even come close to remotely acknowledging any of my points let alone refuting them. I get you took a film class. It doesn't make you an auteur. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cre0@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago it’s entirely subjective after you clear some very basic benchmarks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* I feel like you just like hearing yourself talk because you clearly ignored almost everything I said. If you're going to act like a brick wall, there's no point in discussion until you even come close to remotely acknowledging any of my points let alone refuting them. I get you took a film class. It doesn't make you an auteur. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cre0@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago it’s entirely subjective after you clear some very basic benchmarks. permalink fedilink source parent