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[–] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The "slippery slope" logical fallacy. A classic tool in the braindead conservative debate kit.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I kinda of get where the concern comes from and I am very much not a conservative.

    My concern with censorship is that if we instrument a legal way for the government to force media (social or otherwise) to suppress a point of view, that it will be later used against us.

    It's great if we want to silence Nazis, but I feel that the US is dangerously close to being taken over by Nazis! I think Trump has a legit chance of winning (hopefully he is not allowed to run based on the insurrection clause) and I can definitely see GOP getting legislative majority too. I don't like to think about a MAGA controlled government having the ability to control the discourse of the people..

    But obviously, things would be better without all the hate and disinformation being spread like it currently is. MAGA and qanon and all that authoritarian bullshit really is like a mind virus....

    I dont have a solution, but I don't think censorship is worth the risk. I guess all we can do is continue to socially stigmatize hateful speech and disinformation.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    My concern with censorship is that if we instrument a legal way for the government to force media (social or otherwise) to suppress a point of view, that it will be later used against us.

    It absolutely will. Any mechanism of authority will be abused later for things unrelated to its original purpose. We need to undo authoritarian control and spend all that money on education then stand back let society decide on its own without coercion. Think of this.

    At one time the government felt the need to do something about actual snake oil salesmen. And conservatives at the time were like “It’s crazy to let the government tell you what to eat drink.” But progressives were like “No we gotta put people in jail.” Fast forward less than 100 years and large segments of the population become disenfranchised for smoking a dry plant in private on their own land.

    Everything the FDA does should be about providing information, education, recommendation, grading purity and so on. “This soda contains 5 mg of cocaine as certified by the FDA inspection.” And starting in fifth grade every kid gets fact-based info on what drugs do.

    The solution to absolute free speech is mandatory and repeated education on critical thinking, logical fallacies, propaganda techniques and cognitive biases. I recall propaganda techniques being discussed in fifth grade in the mid 70s.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    No, it's not inherently a fallacy. Case in point, the Patriot Act and everything that followed.

    Yes, it can be used to support idiotic arguments like that legalizing gay marriage will lead to beastiality, or anything that Megan McArdle will use it to support, but it shouldn't be automatically dismissed as an invalid concern.

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