▲ 350 ▼ Proposed CA bill would electronically restrict cars from going 10mph over speed limit (abc7.com) submitted 2 years ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 253 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 47 points 2 years ago (3 children) Speed doesn't kill. It's the sudden stop that kills you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) Be careful, or politicians are gonna draft a bill preventing your from applying too much braking force too quickly. Thats about in line with the logic on this bill. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago Next up, skin cancer: Suns don't kill people. People with suns kill people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Funny enough, they already did long ago. It's call ABS. :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Doesn't abs make you stop sooner than both slamming on locking braks or manually pumping them? Idk sounds like more of a sudden stop to me, congress gonna ban ABS next permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago ABS also shortens your stopping distance. At least good ABS does, originally it sucked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) ABS is designed to prevent the wheels from locking up and skidding. This reduces the total braking force applied a bit, because it's quickly pulsing the brakes, but is safer because you still have a bit of steering control. ABS does the same thing as pumping your brakes, just faster. And you don't need to and probably shouldn't pump the brakes on a car with ABS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Skidding also reduces braking force though, just from a perspective of car vs road, not break pad vs rotor. Unless im mistaken, and aside from control, anti lock breaks bring the car to a stop quicker, presuming traction break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* You are correct. Anti-lock brakes emulate cadence braking, and are more effective than threshold braking, and far more effective than locking your brakes permalink fedilink source parent [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago ABS/pumping the brakes is implemented because sliding friction is less that static friction. It's why you can nudge something on a slope to start sliding and it doesn't stop but would have happily sat there before hand. Your car wheels experience static friction because while in motion the patch in contact with the road isn't moving. Or at least they do until you skid. So ABS brakes/releases to get a new round of static friction. Pumping the brakes is probably a phrase that came from before power assisted brakes (when you were manually pressurizing the hydraulics) but still had relevance because it was also ABS. permalink fedilink source parent [–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) …or the sudden start. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Guest_User@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Lol correct. Speed doesn't kill, acceleration does permalink fedilink source parent [–] hobbit@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Belter slingshot racers know this all too well. NOTE: Spoiler for an episode in the Expanse which everyone should watch if they haven't already. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) Be careful, or politicians are gonna draft a bill preventing your from applying too much braking force too quickly. Thats about in line with the logic on this bill. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago Next up, skin cancer: Suns don't kill people. People with suns kill people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Funny enough, they already did long ago. It's call ABS. :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Doesn't abs make you stop sooner than both slamming on locking braks or manually pumping them? Idk sounds like more of a sudden stop to me, congress gonna ban ABS next permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago ABS also shortens your stopping distance. At least good ABS does, originally it sucked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) ABS is designed to prevent the wheels from locking up and skidding. This reduces the total braking force applied a bit, because it's quickly pulsing the brakes, but is safer because you still have a bit of steering control. ABS does the same thing as pumping your brakes, just faster. And you don't need to and probably shouldn't pump the brakes on a car with ABS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Skidding also reduces braking force though, just from a perspective of car vs road, not break pad vs rotor. Unless im mistaken, and aside from control, anti lock breaks bring the car to a stop quicker, presuming traction break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* You are correct. Anti-lock brakes emulate cadence braking, and are more effective than threshold braking, and far more effective than locking your brakes permalink fedilink source parent [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago ABS/pumping the brakes is implemented because sliding friction is less that static friction. It's why you can nudge something on a slope to start sliding and it doesn't stop but would have happily sat there before hand. Your car wheels experience static friction because while in motion the patch in contact with the road isn't moving. Or at least they do until you skid. So ABS brakes/releases to get a new round of static friction. Pumping the brakes is probably a phrase that came from before power assisted brakes (when you were manually pressurizing the hydraulics) but still had relevance because it was also ABS. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago Next up, skin cancer: Suns don't kill people. People with suns kill people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Funny enough, they already did long ago. It's call ABS. :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Doesn't abs make you stop sooner than both slamming on locking braks or manually pumping them? Idk sounds like more of a sudden stop to me, congress gonna ban ABS next permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago ABS also shortens your stopping distance. At least good ABS does, originally it sucked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) ABS is designed to prevent the wheels from locking up and skidding. This reduces the total braking force applied a bit, because it's quickly pulsing the brakes, but is safer because you still have a bit of steering control. ABS does the same thing as pumping your brakes, just faster. And you don't need to and probably shouldn't pump the brakes on a car with ABS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Skidding also reduces braking force though, just from a perspective of car vs road, not break pad vs rotor. Unless im mistaken, and aside from control, anti lock breaks bring the car to a stop quicker, presuming traction break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* You are correct. Anti-lock brakes emulate cadence braking, and are more effective than threshold braking, and far more effective than locking your brakes permalink fedilink source parent [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago ABS/pumping the brakes is implemented because sliding friction is less that static friction. It's why you can nudge something on a slope to start sliding and it doesn't stop but would have happily sat there before hand. Your car wheels experience static friction because while in motion the patch in contact with the road isn't moving. Or at least they do until you skid. So ABS brakes/releases to get a new round of static friction. Pumping the brakes is probably a phrase that came from before power assisted brakes (when you were manually pressurizing the hydraulics) but still had relevance because it was also ABS. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Doesn't abs make you stop sooner than both slamming on locking braks or manually pumping them? Idk sounds like more of a sudden stop to me, congress gonna ban ABS next permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago ABS also shortens your stopping distance. At least good ABS does, originally it sucked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) ABS is designed to prevent the wheels from locking up and skidding. This reduces the total braking force applied a bit, because it's quickly pulsing the brakes, but is safer because you still have a bit of steering control. ABS does the same thing as pumping your brakes, just faster. And you don't need to and probably shouldn't pump the brakes on a car with ABS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Skidding also reduces braking force though, just from a perspective of car vs road, not break pad vs rotor. Unless im mistaken, and aside from control, anti lock breaks bring the car to a stop quicker, presuming traction break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* You are correct. Anti-lock brakes emulate cadence braking, and are more effective than threshold braking, and far more effective than locking your brakes permalink fedilink source parent [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago ABS/pumping the brakes is implemented because sliding friction is less that static friction. It's why you can nudge something on a slope to start sliding and it doesn't stop but would have happily sat there before hand. Your car wheels experience static friction because while in motion the patch in contact with the road isn't moving. Or at least they do until you skid. So ABS brakes/releases to get a new round of static friction. Pumping the brakes is probably a phrase that came from before power assisted brakes (when you were manually pressurizing the hydraulics) but still had relevance because it was also ABS. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago ABS also shortens your stopping distance. At least good ABS does, originally it sucked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) ABS is designed to prevent the wheels from locking up and skidding. This reduces the total braking force applied a bit, because it's quickly pulsing the brakes, but is safer because you still have a bit of steering control. ABS does the same thing as pumping your brakes, just faster. And you don't need to and probably shouldn't pump the brakes on a car with ABS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Skidding also reduces braking force though, just from a perspective of car vs road, not break pad vs rotor. Unless im mistaken, and aside from control, anti lock breaks bring the car to a stop quicker, presuming traction break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* You are correct. Anti-lock brakes emulate cadence braking, and are more effective than threshold braking, and far more effective than locking your brakes permalink fedilink source parent [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago ABS/pumping the brakes is implemented because sliding friction is less that static friction. It's why you can nudge something on a slope to start sliding and it doesn't stop but would have happily sat there before hand. Your car wheels experience static friction because while in motion the patch in contact with the road isn't moving. Or at least they do until you skid. So ABS brakes/releases to get a new round of static friction. Pumping the brakes is probably a phrase that came from before power assisted brakes (when you were manually pressurizing the hydraulics) but still had relevance because it was also ABS. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Skidding also reduces braking force though, just from a perspective of car vs road, not break pad vs rotor. Unless im mistaken, and aside from control, anti lock breaks bring the car to a stop quicker, presuming traction break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* You are correct. Anti-lock brakes emulate cadence braking, and are more effective than threshold braking, and far more effective than locking your brakes permalink fedilink source parent [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago ABS/pumping the brakes is implemented because sliding friction is less that static friction. It's why you can nudge something on a slope to start sliding and it doesn't stop but would have happily sat there before hand. Your car wheels experience static friction because while in motion the patch in contact with the road isn't moving. Or at least they do until you skid. So ABS brakes/releases to get a new round of static friction. Pumping the brakes is probably a phrase that came from before power assisted brakes (when you were manually pressurizing the hydraulics) but still had relevance because it was also ABS. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* You are correct. Anti-lock brakes emulate cadence braking, and are more effective than threshold braking, and far more effective than locking your brakes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago ABS/pumping the brakes is implemented because sliding friction is less that static friction. It's why you can nudge something on a slope to start sliding and it doesn't stop but would have happily sat there before hand. Your car wheels experience static friction because while in motion the patch in contact with the road isn't moving. Or at least they do until you skid. So ABS brakes/releases to get a new round of static friction. Pumping the brakes is probably a phrase that came from before power assisted brakes (when you were manually pressurizing the hydraulics) but still had relevance because it was also ABS. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) …or the sudden start. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Guest_User@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Lol correct. Speed doesn't kill, acceleration does permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Guest_User@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Lol correct. Speed doesn't kill, acceleration does permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hobbit@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Belter slingshot racers know this all too well. NOTE: Spoiler for an episode in the Expanse which everyone should watch if they haven't already. permalink fedilink source parent