▲ 347 ▼ Dataset confirms that a vegan diet is dramatically better across a range of environmental measures (phys.org) submitted 3 years ago by floofloof@lemmy.ca to c/science@lemmy.ml 147 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It’d also be great if they were nutritionally equivalent. Plant based meats aren’t equivalent to animal meat on that front. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darq@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Plant-based diets are usually superior, health-wise, to meat-based diets. There are a couple of nutrients that vegan diets at one point may have fell short in, like B12 and D being common examples, but at this point those are present in fortified vegan milks or breads. The only other ones I can think of off the top of my head are a fatty acid present in fish, that is easily supplemented. Or less essential nutrients like taurine, which are also easily supplemented if one finds that they really need higher levels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] max@feddit.nl 9 points 2 years ago Exactly. Most livestock gets supplemented B12 anyway, since the ground/soil is too clean for it to occur naturally like in the past. Might as well cut out the middlemancow. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) It can be difficult to get enough protein with vegan options for people who aren't knowledgeable about the options. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] darq@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not really. Protein is not something particularly difficult in a reasonably balanced vegan diet, for most people. There are plenty of dietary sources of protein in vegan cooking. Anybody requiring particularly high levels of protein is probably already supplementing it. Usually with vegan sources anyway. Of all the possible deficiencies in a vegan diet, protein is by far the least of people's, already small, worries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago It does get harder when you have to cut out an entire food group because of food allergies though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mildbeard@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There have been multiple scientific studies asking whether vegans get enough protein. The conclusion is always that they do. Here is one of them. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6893534/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago I didn't say they don't, I said it's difficult for people who don't know how. You have to spend time on education when you go vegan. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darq@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Plant-based diets are usually superior, health-wise, to meat-based diets. There are a couple of nutrients that vegan diets at one point may have fell short in, like B12 and D being common examples, but at this point those are present in fortified vegan milks or breads. The only other ones I can think of off the top of my head are a fatty acid present in fish, that is easily supplemented. Or less essential nutrients like taurine, which are also easily supplemented if one finds that they really need higher levels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] max@feddit.nl 9 points 2 years ago Exactly. Most livestock gets supplemented B12 anyway, since the ground/soil is too clean for it to occur naturally like in the past. Might as well cut out the middlemancow. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) It can be difficult to get enough protein with vegan options for people who aren't knowledgeable about the options. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] darq@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not really. Protein is not something particularly difficult in a reasonably balanced vegan diet, for most people. There are plenty of dietary sources of protein in vegan cooking. Anybody requiring particularly high levels of protein is probably already supplementing it. Usually with vegan sources anyway. Of all the possible deficiencies in a vegan diet, protein is by far the least of people's, already small, worries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago It does get harder when you have to cut out an entire food group because of food allergies though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mildbeard@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There have been multiple scientific studies asking whether vegans get enough protein. The conclusion is always that they do. Here is one of them. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6893534/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago I didn't say they don't, I said it's difficult for people who don't know how. You have to spend time on education when you go vegan. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] max@feddit.nl 9 points 2 years ago Exactly. Most livestock gets supplemented B12 anyway, since the ground/soil is too clean for it to occur naturally like in the past. Might as well cut out the middlemancow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) It can be difficult to get enough protein with vegan options for people who aren't knowledgeable about the options. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] darq@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not really. Protein is not something particularly difficult in a reasonably balanced vegan diet, for most people. There are plenty of dietary sources of protein in vegan cooking. Anybody requiring particularly high levels of protein is probably already supplementing it. Usually with vegan sources anyway. Of all the possible deficiencies in a vegan diet, protein is by far the least of people's, already small, worries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago It does get harder when you have to cut out an entire food group because of food allergies though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mildbeard@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There have been multiple scientific studies asking whether vegans get enough protein. The conclusion is always that they do. Here is one of them. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6893534/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago I didn't say they don't, I said it's difficult for people who don't know how. You have to spend time on education when you go vegan. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darq@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not really. Protein is not something particularly difficult in a reasonably balanced vegan diet, for most people. There are plenty of dietary sources of protein in vegan cooking. Anybody requiring particularly high levels of protein is probably already supplementing it. Usually with vegan sources anyway. Of all the possible deficiencies in a vegan diet, protein is by far the least of people's, already small, worries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago It does get harder when you have to cut out an entire food group because of food allergies though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago It does get harder when you have to cut out an entire food group because of food allergies though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mildbeard@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There have been multiple scientific studies asking whether vegans get enough protein. The conclusion is always that they do. Here is one of them. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6893534/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago I didn't say they don't, I said it's difficult for people who don't know how. You have to spend time on education when you go vegan. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago I didn't say they don't, I said it's difficult for people who don't know how. You have to spend time on education when you go vegan. permalink fedilink source parent