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Stop using Opera Browser and Opera GX (www.spacebar.news)
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[–] 160 points 2 years ago (10 children)

PSA: The old Opera guys have a new browser, Vivaldi.

It's quite nice and I use it daily.

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  • [–] 121 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It's just another flavour of Chromium though isn't it?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Much more UI customization and a shitton of power user stuff too

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  • [–] 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Still chromium, no thanks.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Fair, site compatibility is needed for my work so I unfortunately must use chromium

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I've heard multiple people say this as the reason for not using Firefox, but I can't remember if I ever had sites not working on FF. Does it happen often for you?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Not often, but it does happen enough times that I have Chrome installed as a backup in case something doesn't work. It's usually the in-house websites (for instance, the ones made for tracking timesheets) that break on Firefox. Not all of them break, of course, but if you're required to submit a form via a particular in-house website and it doesn't load on Firefox, then you're kind of forced to have a backup browser at minimum.

    It doesn't happen often enough that I would say that using Firefox is problematic, but if you combine that with people's inherent aversion to change, you can start to see why people are so resistant to even trying Firefox. Unfortunately, it ends up being a self-fulfilling prophecy, since the less people use Firefox, the less the web development teams at these companies would be incentivized to make sure their website works on Firefox

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    My power got shut off one day before December last year. I thought the bills were all being paid cause I received no notice of delinquency. Turns out, my electric company purged my account.

    When I tried to make a new account, going through multiple attempts where the only thing that worked right was their shitty captcha (select all motorcycles bullshit), I finally had to call them. Turns out, soon as I switched to a chromium browser, it allowed me to complete the registration.

    I told the rep on the phone, a nice lady who was as shocked as I was that Firefox wasn't allowing registration to complete, to convey to their IT team that a) removing the accounts of paying customers is a really awful policy (who logs into their power companies site after setting up auto pay?) and b) that catering to a single line of browser was not bad practice. She said she'd pass it on.

    I don't think she passed it on.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    For gecko the best alternative to old opera and Vivaldi I found so far is floorp

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    It's a rebranded chromium with some extra bloat. Just like his older brother Chinese Chromium, Opera, and their edgy cousin, Microsoft Chromium. All following the example of Papa Chrome.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Don't forget about their outdated-hIpster friend, Brave Chromium.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yep. I daily drive Vivaldi on both macOS and Android.

    I love it. The sidebar is a great feature; I stash my extension icons there. The theme is highly customizable; I have mine set to something similar to the Opera dark theme.

    I don't use the email or calendar features. The great thing about Vivaldi is that they provide a ton of power user features, but don't shove it in your face. It's super easy to turn off the things you don't want and to turn on the things you do want.

    I do use UBO, but they also have a builtin ad blocker if you want to use that instead.

    The settings page is very extensive. Tons of customization. True to the Opera legacy!

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    The sidebar is a great feature; I stash my extension icons there.

    That's amazing, I didn't know you could do that. I've been using Vivaldi since the alpha days and I had no clue you could drag the extensions there.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Not to mention it has the best ad and tracker blocking I've seen without extensions, I've never used UBO or anything and still have zero issues on YouTube with ads or performance problems.

    Yeah yeah I know, it's still based on chromium, but until Firefox gets a suitable alternative to tab stacking and the side bar (ive already tried all of the solutions people claim is good enough or "the same" and find them all lacking) ill stick with V.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Vivaldi has the best tab management ever.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Huge fan of Vivaldi for both pc and mobile!

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I loved some of the functionality Vivaldi adds (split tabs, tab groups, etc) but I couldn't take the instability that came with it. That thing crashed more times in the 6 months I used it than Firefox or Chrome ever have for me total I swear to god.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Somewhat ditto, though for me it was less actual crashes and more generically bad performance while the rest of the system chugged along fine.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I love Vivaldi but it definitely chugs with the stupid amount of hibernated tabs I've got. The new sessions thing helped alleviate that a bit since I can save a window state and close it but I definitely run into some kind of memory leak with it. (I have had like 1k+ hibernated tabs open, so not entirely unexpected that it runs into issues but I'd still think if they're hibernated they should just be stubbed out tabs in memory until clicking one turns it into a full browser process. Idk)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I keep revisiting Vivaldi once every few months, and get reminded of why I uninstall it within minutes. They remove the option of changing DNS servers from the configuration UI and moved it into flags. I have absolutely no idea why they do that, and its a philosophy I vehemently disagree with.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Last I looked, I couldn't find a Linux version of Vivaldi. Which is strange as I'm pretty sure their beta releases did. Been a hot minute since I've looked again. Other than being chromium based, I liked what I seen. It's almost like kde developed it with its staggering feature set lol.

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