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Way to go, guys! (lemmy.world)
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[–] 90 points 2 years ago (4 children)

A critical refinement of this point: By all means, please do vote for whichever actual progressive candidate you favor in your state's Democratic primary. This is not sarcasm; do it. But when the general election comes around Biden is inevitably the candidate anyway, do whatever it takes to keep Trump out of office.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago*

    If you're in a red area, consider voting in the Republican primary in good faith. (Don't try nominating the worse candidate. The backfire is terrible.) You're still allowed to vote for whoever you want in the general. This election primaries will largely be about down ticket races, but that's important too.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    That would require them to actually give enough of a shit to turn out for primaries, and president Bernie can tell you that none of these fake allies actually care enough to wrench themselves from their two bit Jean-Paul Marat act for such a herculean labor.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago

    See Bernie 2016. Won the DNC, but got snake in the grass Hillary instead, which led to understandable mass apathy amongst the Democratic voters. I'm still pissed! Kinda like what reportedly happened with McGovern '72

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    And why shouldn't Biden do whatever it takes to stop Trump? If supporting a genocide loses votes, there's an easy way to win those votes back.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Woah woah woah, you mean actually try to win votes through rational and humane policy and not merely the fact that he's running against a human piece of shit and is technically better? You mean that we should have someone with actual principles on the democratic ticket instead of someone nodding along and sending weapons to a genocidal government? Outrageous wow why do you love Trump so much

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's not that simple. Changing positions will probably polarize people to vote against him as much as it will win over votes to him.

    Especially because those who are likely to withhold votes over this will probably demand the most drastic of actions before Biden passes their purity test.

    Geopolitically it's a bad move on top of that as it ends the relationship with practicallythe only middle Eastern power we have as an ally.

    The reproductions of that alone is certain to energize opposition to Biden in the far right.

    While he may lose voters over his current inaction, taking action could easily lead to a net loss on election day.

    Unfortunately what is best for a country geopolitically and what is morally right often don't agree with each other.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Even from a moral choice Biden is the better option. You get someone pressuring for a Two-state solution keep aid flowing to Palestinians as well as to support in helping Ukraine who are being genocided by their definitions. While also supporting international efforts to re-open one of the busiest shipping channels so places like Africa & others experiencing hardships that will have trouble maintaining safety & stability if prices of common goods increases.

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