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eBay will lay off 1,000 employees — 9 percent of the company (www.theverge.com)
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[–] 50 points 2 years ago (5 children)

We need laws around layoffs, stat. It shouldn't be legal for execs to layoff a thousand people and still keep their own jobs. It's their failure that caused the issue in the first place - they've been safe for too long.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    And what would that law be?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Honestly I am curious what the logistics of a ratio cap between lowest and highest paid employee would result in, say 1:10.

    Now there's a lot more to consider but I think restricting the impact onto the managements possible pay by layoffs (while also capping their pay) would encourage upper management who cares about their workers and company alike, and also kill the layoff cycle thats used to boost end of year reports

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I mean, I'm not a lawmaker, but ideally if execs do layoffs they should either have to also layoff a certain percentage of upper level execs dependent on the # of people laid off, and/or the company or execs should have to pay fees dependent on the # of people laid off.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    You're suggesting the government should be be involved in a private business hiring / firing decisions? And pay fee's also? So if a business is having a down time, they don't have funds for payroll, you want to fine them? A large project concludes, they lay off those people, they need a fine? So they'll need to calculate fines into the price they charge for projects?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Maybe look at this another way:

    The government should represent the interests of the people. If the people have shown interest in curbing these layoff behaviors, where thousands of people lose their jobs while management remains in place with no apparent cuts to the top billing, then why would lawmakers not want to translate these interests into legislation?

    I get a reasonable wariness of keeping the government out of private business, but if you have a town of 10 people, all employed by local business owner, and that business owner lays off two people, you have a large percentage of the population affected. If the townspeople enact a local ordinance to prevent this kind of behavior in the future, would they be in the wrong?

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    To prevent ... what kind of behavior exactly? Firing people? I'm for the government protecting peoples interest, but also a business needs the freedom to hire and fire as they see fit, without beuaracy involved. Maybe you're more referring to a union?

    how do you know management is not also being fired? Should the 'people' be given a list of potential fires and they vote on who the business can fire?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    This breaks down as a business grows. When your business employs a significant portion of the local economy, it accumulates soft power that can rival that of local governments, all while having little to none of the accountability or representation that one would otherwise expect.

    Management is likely being fired to an extent, but one used to expect those with the authority and responsibility to be in such a position of power to be held accountable. We’re long gone from the days where a leader would personally take accountability and step down while making unpopular or harmful decisions.

    I don’t have a perfect solution to this but I clearly think something needs to change.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Yep, that sounds great to me! At least for large corporations. Obviously shouldn't apply to contractors, but that sounds great.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    you are forgetting that businesses already pay unemployment. That is their 'fee' basically. Your unemployment funds come from the payments a business makes during their monthly or quarterly taxes they pay to the state. When they fire anyone , their unemployment payments they have to make increase the following years. Each year the state looks at how many people a company hired / fired and adjusts their payments for the year. And that calculation takes account the last 3 or so years where I am.

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