▲ 162 ▼ United Auto Workers union expected to endorse Biden (www.nbcnews.com) submitted 2 years ago by Rapidcreek@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 32 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] blazera@kbin.social -26 points 2 years ago (1 child) Now this is some leopards ate my face permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] oocdc2@kbin.social -18 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I'm with you--folks already forget what he did with the rail workers? Endorsing Trump would be ridiculous, but how about the unions endorse no one--can that be a thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) You mean when he support the rail workers and fought congress undermining them? Why do leftist want to rewrite history to ensure people think it isn't a W for Biden and labor rights? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Any win by a liberal is a threat to the leftists, since their argument is based on the inability of liberals to govern permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah dude we get it, you hate liberals. Unfortunately you need them to get anything of material benefit done for working class people and minorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I was agreeing with you, I should have said "the perceived inability of liberals to govern" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Apologies, I missed the intention in my fervor lol permalink fedilink source parent [+] blazera@kbin.social -10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Youre the one rewriting history https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/12/02/biden-signs-bill-averting-rail-worker-strike-despite-lack-of-paid-sick-days.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) This comment is so disingenuous. Your link said guaranteed sick leave was the sticking point in December 2022: The initial agreement brokered by the Biden administration was accepted by all but four rail unions, who were holding out for guaranteed paid sick leave days. The opposing unions, though, represent the majority of rail workers. The workers and companies had until Dec. 9 to reach an agreement before they vowed to strike, which the industry estimated would cost the U.S. economy $2 billion per day. But five months later, it was resolved: When Joe Biden and Congress enacted legislation in December that blocked a threatened freight rail strike, many workers angrily faulted Biden for not ensuring that the legislation also guaranteed paid sick days. But since then, union officials says, members of the Biden administration, including the transportation secretary, Pete Buttigieg, and labor secretary, Marty Walsh, who stepped down on 11 March, lobbied the railroads, telling them it was wrong not to grant paid sick days. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/01/railroad-workers-union-win-sick-leave permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago Not all workers got sick days, the ones that did didnt get as many as if they were able to strike, and this outlawing of their collective bargaining poisons any future negotiations. Democrats really love this story of unions being unnecessary and strikes being wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago* (4 children) Yea, five months after he very publicly shut down the strike, they quietly got a small part of what they were asking for. This isn't the w you think it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago Looks like a W to workers. Let's ask the rail workers who have increases of 24% how they like their new contract. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Then what is it? What happened? What are your sources? Substituting reality because you disagree with it will get you nowhere, champ. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you in a union? If not I'd understand why your upset. Anyone who is in one recognizes how good biden has been for labor in this country. Probably the best labor president since FDR even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Source? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Godric@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago 5 months after acting like a jackass, he was quietly a real swell dude. Sound like he was a real swell dude and ended the whole thing on a good note 💎 🐊 😎 permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you think this link proves exactly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago Biden personally outlawed their strike. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago I assume this is the UAW leadership seeing that Biden would be better than trump, and so endorsing accordingly. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] oocdc2@kbin.social -18 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I'm with you--folks already forget what he did with the rail workers? Endorsing Trump would be ridiculous, but how about the unions endorse no one--can that be a thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) You mean when he support the rail workers and fought congress undermining them? Why do leftist want to rewrite history to ensure people think it isn't a W for Biden and labor rights? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Any win by a liberal is a threat to the leftists, since their argument is based on the inability of liberals to govern permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah dude we get it, you hate liberals. Unfortunately you need them to get anything of material benefit done for working class people and minorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I was agreeing with you, I should have said "the perceived inability of liberals to govern" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Apologies, I missed the intention in my fervor lol permalink fedilink source parent [+] blazera@kbin.social -10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Youre the one rewriting history https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/12/02/biden-signs-bill-averting-rail-worker-strike-despite-lack-of-paid-sick-days.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) This comment is so disingenuous. Your link said guaranteed sick leave was the sticking point in December 2022: The initial agreement brokered by the Biden administration was accepted by all but four rail unions, who were holding out for guaranteed paid sick leave days. The opposing unions, though, represent the majority of rail workers. The workers and companies had until Dec. 9 to reach an agreement before they vowed to strike, which the industry estimated would cost the U.S. economy $2 billion per day. But five months later, it was resolved: When Joe Biden and Congress enacted legislation in December that blocked a threatened freight rail strike, many workers angrily faulted Biden for not ensuring that the legislation also guaranteed paid sick days. But since then, union officials says, members of the Biden administration, including the transportation secretary, Pete Buttigieg, and labor secretary, Marty Walsh, who stepped down on 11 March, lobbied the railroads, telling them it was wrong not to grant paid sick days. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/01/railroad-workers-union-win-sick-leave permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago Not all workers got sick days, the ones that did didnt get as many as if they were able to strike, and this outlawing of their collective bargaining poisons any future negotiations. Democrats really love this story of unions being unnecessary and strikes being wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago* (4 children) Yea, five months after he very publicly shut down the strike, they quietly got a small part of what they were asking for. This isn't the w you think it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago Looks like a W to workers. Let's ask the rail workers who have increases of 24% how they like their new contract. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Then what is it? What happened? What are your sources? Substituting reality because you disagree with it will get you nowhere, champ. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you in a union? If not I'd understand why your upset. Anyone who is in one recognizes how good biden has been for labor in this country. Probably the best labor president since FDR even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Source? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Godric@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago 5 months after acting like a jackass, he was quietly a real swell dude. Sound like he was a real swell dude and ended the whole thing on a good note 💎 🐊 😎 permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you think this link proves exactly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago Biden personally outlawed their strike. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago I assume this is the UAW leadership seeing that Biden would be better than trump, and so endorsing accordingly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) You mean when he support the rail workers and fought congress undermining them? Why do leftist want to rewrite history to ensure people think it isn't a W for Biden and labor rights? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Any win by a liberal is a threat to the leftists, since their argument is based on the inability of liberals to govern permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah dude we get it, you hate liberals. Unfortunately you need them to get anything of material benefit done for working class people and minorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I was agreeing with you, I should have said "the perceived inability of liberals to govern" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Apologies, I missed the intention in my fervor lol permalink fedilink source parent [+] blazera@kbin.social -10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Youre the one rewriting history https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/12/02/biden-signs-bill-averting-rail-worker-strike-despite-lack-of-paid-sick-days.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) This comment is so disingenuous. Your link said guaranteed sick leave was the sticking point in December 2022: The initial agreement brokered by the Biden administration was accepted by all but four rail unions, who were holding out for guaranteed paid sick leave days. The opposing unions, though, represent the majority of rail workers. The workers and companies had until Dec. 9 to reach an agreement before they vowed to strike, which the industry estimated would cost the U.S. economy $2 billion per day. But five months later, it was resolved: When Joe Biden and Congress enacted legislation in December that blocked a threatened freight rail strike, many workers angrily faulted Biden for not ensuring that the legislation also guaranteed paid sick days. But since then, union officials says, members of the Biden administration, including the transportation secretary, Pete Buttigieg, and labor secretary, Marty Walsh, who stepped down on 11 March, lobbied the railroads, telling them it was wrong not to grant paid sick days. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/01/railroad-workers-union-win-sick-leave permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago Not all workers got sick days, the ones that did didnt get as many as if they were able to strike, and this outlawing of their collective bargaining poisons any future negotiations. Democrats really love this story of unions being unnecessary and strikes being wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago* (4 children) Yea, five months after he very publicly shut down the strike, they quietly got a small part of what they were asking for. This isn't the w you think it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago Looks like a W to workers. Let's ask the rail workers who have increases of 24% how they like their new contract. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Then what is it? What happened? What are your sources? Substituting reality because you disagree with it will get you nowhere, champ. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you in a union? If not I'd understand why your upset. Anyone who is in one recognizes how good biden has been for labor in this country. Probably the best labor president since FDR even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Source? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Godric@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago 5 months after acting like a jackass, he was quietly a real swell dude. Sound like he was a real swell dude and ended the whole thing on a good note 💎 🐊 😎 permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you think this link proves exactly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago Biden personally outlawed their strike. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Any win by a liberal is a threat to the leftists, since their argument is based on the inability of liberals to govern permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah dude we get it, you hate liberals. Unfortunately you need them to get anything of material benefit done for working class people and minorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I was agreeing with you, I should have said "the perceived inability of liberals to govern" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Apologies, I missed the intention in my fervor lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah dude we get it, you hate liberals. Unfortunately you need them to get anything of material benefit done for working class people and minorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I was agreeing with you, I should have said "the perceived inability of liberals to govern" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Apologies, I missed the intention in my fervor lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I was agreeing with you, I should have said "the perceived inability of liberals to govern" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Apologies, I missed the intention in my fervor lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Apologies, I missed the intention in my fervor lol permalink fedilink source parent
[+] blazera@kbin.social -10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Youre the one rewriting history https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/12/02/biden-signs-bill-averting-rail-worker-strike-despite-lack-of-paid-sick-days.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) This comment is so disingenuous. Your link said guaranteed sick leave was the sticking point in December 2022: The initial agreement brokered by the Biden administration was accepted by all but four rail unions, who were holding out for guaranteed paid sick leave days. The opposing unions, though, represent the majority of rail workers. The workers and companies had until Dec. 9 to reach an agreement before they vowed to strike, which the industry estimated would cost the U.S. economy $2 billion per day. But five months later, it was resolved: When Joe Biden and Congress enacted legislation in December that blocked a threatened freight rail strike, many workers angrily faulted Biden for not ensuring that the legislation also guaranteed paid sick days. But since then, union officials says, members of the Biden administration, including the transportation secretary, Pete Buttigieg, and labor secretary, Marty Walsh, who stepped down on 11 March, lobbied the railroads, telling them it was wrong not to grant paid sick days. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/01/railroad-workers-union-win-sick-leave permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago Not all workers got sick days, the ones that did didnt get as many as if they were able to strike, and this outlawing of their collective bargaining poisons any future negotiations. Democrats really love this story of unions being unnecessary and strikes being wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago* (4 children) Yea, five months after he very publicly shut down the strike, they quietly got a small part of what they were asking for. This isn't the w you think it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago Looks like a W to workers. Let's ask the rail workers who have increases of 24% how they like their new contract. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Then what is it? What happened? What are your sources? Substituting reality because you disagree with it will get you nowhere, champ. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you in a union? If not I'd understand why your upset. Anyone who is in one recognizes how good biden has been for labor in this country. Probably the best labor president since FDR even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Source? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Godric@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago 5 months after acting like a jackass, he was quietly a real swell dude. Sound like he was a real swell dude and ended the whole thing on a good note 💎 🐊 😎 permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you think this link proves exactly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago Biden personally outlawed their strike. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) This comment is so disingenuous. Your link said guaranteed sick leave was the sticking point in December 2022: The initial agreement brokered by the Biden administration was accepted by all but four rail unions, who were holding out for guaranteed paid sick leave days. The opposing unions, though, represent the majority of rail workers. The workers and companies had until Dec. 9 to reach an agreement before they vowed to strike, which the industry estimated would cost the U.S. economy $2 billion per day. But five months later, it was resolved: When Joe Biden and Congress enacted legislation in December that blocked a threatened freight rail strike, many workers angrily faulted Biden for not ensuring that the legislation also guaranteed paid sick days. But since then, union officials says, members of the Biden administration, including the transportation secretary, Pete Buttigieg, and labor secretary, Marty Walsh, who stepped down on 11 March, lobbied the railroads, telling them it was wrong not to grant paid sick days. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/01/railroad-workers-union-win-sick-leave permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago Not all workers got sick days, the ones that did didnt get as many as if they were able to strike, and this outlawing of their collective bargaining poisons any future negotiations. Democrats really love this story of unions being unnecessary and strikes being wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago* (4 children) Yea, five months after he very publicly shut down the strike, they quietly got a small part of what they were asking for. This isn't the w you think it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago Looks like a W to workers. Let's ask the rail workers who have increases of 24% how they like their new contract. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Then what is it? What happened? What are your sources? Substituting reality because you disagree with it will get you nowhere, champ. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you in a union? If not I'd understand why your upset. Anyone who is in one recognizes how good biden has been for labor in this country. Probably the best labor president since FDR even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Source? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Godric@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago 5 months after acting like a jackass, he was quietly a real swell dude. Sound like he was a real swell dude and ended the whole thing on a good note 💎 🐊 😎 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago Not all workers got sick days, the ones that did didnt get as many as if they were able to strike, and this outlawing of their collective bargaining poisons any future negotiations. Democrats really love this story of unions being unnecessary and strikes being wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago* (4 children) Yea, five months after he very publicly shut down the strike, they quietly got a small part of what they were asking for. This isn't the w you think it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago Looks like a W to workers. Let's ask the rail workers who have increases of 24% how they like their new contract. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Then what is it? What happened? What are your sources? Substituting reality because you disagree with it will get you nowhere, champ. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you in a union? If not I'd understand why your upset. Anyone who is in one recognizes how good biden has been for labor in this country. Probably the best labor president since FDR even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Source? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Godric@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago 5 months after acting like a jackass, he was quietly a real swell dude. Sound like he was a real swell dude and ended the whole thing on a good note 💎 🐊 😎 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago Looks like a W to workers. Let's ask the rail workers who have increases of 24% how they like their new contract. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Then what is it? What happened? What are your sources? Substituting reality because you disagree with it will get you nowhere, champ. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you in a union? If not I'd understand why your upset. Anyone who is in one recognizes how good biden has been for labor in this country. Probably the best labor president since FDR even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Source? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Godric@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago 5 months after acting like a jackass, he was quietly a real swell dude. Sound like he was a real swell dude and ended the whole thing on a good note 💎 🐊 😎 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you think this link proves exactly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago Biden personally outlawed their strike. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago Biden personally outlawed their strike. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago I assume this is the UAW leadership seeing that Biden would be better than trump, and so endorsing accordingly. permalink fedilink source parent