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Tennessee Republican files 'abortion trafficking' bill for pregnant minors (www.tennessean.com)
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A Tennessee Republican hopes to establish an "abortion trafficking" felony for adults who help pregnant minors get an out-of-state abortion without parental permission, an effort reproductive health advocates argue will run afoul of constitutional rights such as interstate travel.

Rep. Jason Zachary, R-Knoxville, filed House Bill 1895 on Monday. The legislation would establish a new Class C felony, which could carry three to 15 years in prison, for an adult that "recruits, harbors or transports" a pregnant minor for the purposes of receiving an out-of-state abortion or for getting abortion medication.

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[+] -7 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

Cool

When Lincoln and the traitors disagreed about why the civil war started (after it started) and we have actual proof from Lincoln saying he wasn't interested in federally banning slavery ..

Why are you taking the words of the traitors over Lincoln?

I thought the modern analogy would help, but I think it just confused you more unfortunately

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I remember you from the last time this topic came up. Homie, I mean this as genuinely as possible, I'm honest to God trying to help; I think you should consider taking some communications or public speaking lessons or something. There's a lot of good books or resources on YouTube on the matter if classes don't make sense for you. You kind of just come across as a troll. Idk if that's on purpose, but that's why people react so badly to what you're saying. It's not your ideas, it's you, it's how you communicate.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Or...

    Maybe seeing people still falling for conservative propaganda from over a century ago is a little frustrating considering how conservative propaganda literally just resulted in another attempt at overthrowing the democratically elected government of America...

    Maybe, just maybe, some things are worth getting upset about

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So, pointing out that the Civil War was about Slaves is conservative propaganda? How does that make any sense?

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  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago*

    Because that's not what actually happened...

    It was because the south wanted the feds to force the north to return escaped slaves, even tho they were no longer slaves once they got to the north...

    I genuinely don't understand why people don't understand why those aren't the same things.

    The topic at the time did involve slavery, but what the south started the civil war about was the feds refusing to force northern states to enforce laws that didn't exist in the northern states.

    It wasn't to keep slavery legal in south. Because Lincoln wouldn't stop saying he had no desire to federally ban slavery, because he thought that would be enough to appease the south and avoid civil war.

    Bringing us full circle to why the details still matter:

    Appeasing conservative governments never works, they'll never be happy unless they get everything they want. So why meet them halfway?

    The line will need to be drawn eventually anyways

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I understand that it's impossible to tell if someone is being genuine on the internet, so I'm begging you to break out Hanlon's Razor and assume that I'm just stupid instead of malicious.

    Look, if you wanna be upset, by all means, knock yourself out, you're going to unironically have a great time on the internet. If you want to do something productive and actually persuade people instead of just get worked up, then it would absolutely be worth your time to work on persuasive writing and speech.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It says a lot that your issue isn't any of the people still falling for conservative propaganda...

    But that I'm not being persuasive enough, hell, if that's your only problem, wouldn't a better use of your time using your superior communication skills to help them understand?

    But I'll never have to try and explain this to you again, if you don't want to see my comments either, it's a very simple process for you as well

    Takes less than a second

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sometimes a man’s character in an argument must be taken to account, depending on the context.

    Example: A Neo-Nazi arguing about racial science. I personally don’t think anyone should give that guy the time of day.

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  • [+] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)
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