▲ 1009 ▼ Piers Morgan gets owned (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 163 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Stalin and Mao are not the kind of people you follow when you want a more equal world or you're seriously misguided. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's why real lefties don't defend them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) A tankie is every bit as real of a leftist as an anarchist or demsoc imo. Tankies suck balls, no question. But to say that they're not true leftists is kinda dumb. A typical convinced tankie well and truly believes that they are fighting for equality and the path towards communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Uh huh. Explain where socialism is best enacted through genocide, imperialism, and the creation of a rigid and often hereditary heirarchy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago I don't think it can realistically be done. I think Vanguardist shenanigans lead to state capitalism. That being said, reformists have a damn slim chance of replacing capitalism as well. We still call them leftists, no? What about social democrats? Mutualists? Those don't even want socialism at all. They are still leftists, even if they suck at leftism. permalink fedilink source parent [+] menthol@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's why real lefties don't defend them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) A tankie is every bit as real of a leftist as an anarchist or demsoc imo. Tankies suck balls, no question. But to say that they're not true leftists is kinda dumb. A typical convinced tankie well and truly believes that they are fighting for equality and the path towards communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Uh huh. Explain where socialism is best enacted through genocide, imperialism, and the creation of a rigid and often hereditary heirarchy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago I don't think it can realistically be done. I think Vanguardist shenanigans lead to state capitalism. That being said, reformists have a damn slim chance of replacing capitalism as well. We still call them leftists, no? What about social democrats? Mutualists? Those don't even want socialism at all. They are still leftists, even if they suck at leftism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) A tankie is every bit as real of a leftist as an anarchist or demsoc imo. Tankies suck balls, no question. But to say that they're not true leftists is kinda dumb. A typical convinced tankie well and truly believes that they are fighting for equality and the path towards communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Uh huh. Explain where socialism is best enacted through genocide, imperialism, and the creation of a rigid and often hereditary heirarchy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago I don't think it can realistically be done. I think Vanguardist shenanigans lead to state capitalism. That being said, reformists have a damn slim chance of replacing capitalism as well. We still call them leftists, no? What about social democrats? Mutualists? Those don't even want socialism at all. They are still leftists, even if they suck at leftism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Uh huh. Explain where socialism is best enacted through genocide, imperialism, and the creation of a rigid and often hereditary heirarchy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago I don't think it can realistically be done. I think Vanguardist shenanigans lead to state capitalism. That being said, reformists have a damn slim chance of replacing capitalism as well. We still call them leftists, no? What about social democrats? Mutualists? Those don't even want socialism at all. They are still leftists, even if they suck at leftism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago I don't think it can realistically be done. I think Vanguardist shenanigans lead to state capitalism. That being said, reformists have a damn slim chance of replacing capitalism as well. We still call them leftists, no? What about social democrats? Mutualists? Those don't even want socialism at all. They are still leftists, even if they suck at leftism. permalink fedilink source parent
