▲ 1009 ▼ Piers Morgan gets owned (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 163 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 51 points 2 years ago (1 child) That logic lol. It's like me saying my american friend read mein kampf and love hitler, thus all american is nazi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.social 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) Tbf a lot of Americans are Nazis. Source: Am American permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Even very famous Americans that we try to glorify, Henry Ford for instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago Yes. Even some “blue” ones. permalink fedilink source parent [–] menthol@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Henry Ford was just the Elon Musk of his day. An exploitative asshole pretending to be a genius when all the actual work was done by other people. The Model T was not designed by Ford, it was designed by other engineers. But Ford did at least start his own company, unlike Musk who bought Tesla from other, smarter people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Henry Ford also wrote a series of books titled "the international jew" in which he spew antisemitic shit and crazy conspiracy theories. He had his own newspaper to publish anti-semitic ideology. High ranking German Nazis including Hitler considered him an inspiration. Saying he was "just the Elon Musk of his time" falls on short on how fiercly Ford was anti-semitic, how he systematicall contributed to the ideological framework for anti-semitism and spread it among the Americans and the people in the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Perhaps he was more vocal, but not more hateful? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago Most certainly not. He was both a key actor internationally and in the US, to stir anti-semitism. The US was on a good trajectory to become fascist themselves too, if it wasn't for the war with Japan starting. The reluctance to intervene as well as to take jewish refugees. Tens of thousands of the millions of jews that were killed by Nazi Germany could have been saved if the US didnt impose strict limits on immigration as the result of lacking public support. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0000011110110111i@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago And Elon Musk would probably be exactly the same if not that he would be totally cancelled today. Xitter (pronounced Shitter) is supposed to be his newspaper where he can trumpet his far-right BS, but we have the ability to push back now which didn’t exist in Henry Ford’s time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.social 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) Tbf a lot of Americans are Nazis. Source: Am American permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Even very famous Americans that we try to glorify, Henry Ford for instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago Yes. Even some “blue” ones. permalink fedilink source parent [–] menthol@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Henry Ford was just the Elon Musk of his day. An exploitative asshole pretending to be a genius when all the actual work was done by other people. The Model T was not designed by Ford, it was designed by other engineers. But Ford did at least start his own company, unlike Musk who bought Tesla from other, smarter people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Henry Ford also wrote a series of books titled "the international jew" in which he spew antisemitic shit and crazy conspiracy theories. He had his own newspaper to publish anti-semitic ideology. High ranking German Nazis including Hitler considered him an inspiration. Saying he was "just the Elon Musk of his time" falls on short on how fiercly Ford was anti-semitic, how he systematicall contributed to the ideological framework for anti-semitism and spread it among the Americans and the people in the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Perhaps he was more vocal, but not more hateful? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago Most certainly not. He was both a key actor internationally and in the US, to stir anti-semitism. The US was on a good trajectory to become fascist themselves too, if it wasn't for the war with Japan starting. The reluctance to intervene as well as to take jewish refugees. Tens of thousands of the millions of jews that were killed by Nazi Germany could have been saved if the US didnt impose strict limits on immigration as the result of lacking public support. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0000011110110111i@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago And Elon Musk would probably be exactly the same if not that he would be totally cancelled today. Xitter (pronounced Shitter) is supposed to be his newspaper where he can trumpet his far-right BS, but we have the ability to push back now which didn’t exist in Henry Ford’s time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Even very famous Americans that we try to glorify, Henry Ford for instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago Yes. Even some “blue” ones. permalink fedilink source parent [–] menthol@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Henry Ford was just the Elon Musk of his day. An exploitative asshole pretending to be a genius when all the actual work was done by other people. The Model T was not designed by Ford, it was designed by other engineers. But Ford did at least start his own company, unlike Musk who bought Tesla from other, smarter people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Henry Ford also wrote a series of books titled "the international jew" in which he spew antisemitic shit and crazy conspiracy theories. He had his own newspaper to publish anti-semitic ideology. High ranking German Nazis including Hitler considered him an inspiration. Saying he was "just the Elon Musk of his time" falls on short on how fiercly Ford was anti-semitic, how he systematicall contributed to the ideological framework for anti-semitism and spread it among the Americans and the people in the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Perhaps he was more vocal, but not more hateful? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago Most certainly not. He was both a key actor internationally and in the US, to stir anti-semitism. The US was on a good trajectory to become fascist themselves too, if it wasn't for the war with Japan starting. The reluctance to intervene as well as to take jewish refugees. Tens of thousands of the millions of jews that were killed by Nazi Germany could have been saved if the US didnt impose strict limits on immigration as the result of lacking public support. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0000011110110111i@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago And Elon Musk would probably be exactly the same if not that he would be totally cancelled today. Xitter (pronounced Shitter) is supposed to be his newspaper where he can trumpet his far-right BS, but we have the ability to push back now which didn’t exist in Henry Ford’s time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago Yes. Even some “blue” ones. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] menthol@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Henry Ford was just the Elon Musk of his day. An exploitative asshole pretending to be a genius when all the actual work was done by other people. The Model T was not designed by Ford, it was designed by other engineers. But Ford did at least start his own company, unlike Musk who bought Tesla from other, smarter people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Henry Ford also wrote a series of books titled "the international jew" in which he spew antisemitic shit and crazy conspiracy theories. He had his own newspaper to publish anti-semitic ideology. High ranking German Nazis including Hitler considered him an inspiration. Saying he was "just the Elon Musk of his time" falls on short on how fiercly Ford was anti-semitic, how he systematicall contributed to the ideological framework for anti-semitism and spread it among the Americans and the people in the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Perhaps he was more vocal, but not more hateful? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago Most certainly not. He was both a key actor internationally and in the US, to stir anti-semitism. The US was on a good trajectory to become fascist themselves too, if it wasn't for the war with Japan starting. The reluctance to intervene as well as to take jewish refugees. Tens of thousands of the millions of jews that were killed by Nazi Germany could have been saved if the US didnt impose strict limits on immigration as the result of lacking public support. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0000011110110111i@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago And Elon Musk would probably be exactly the same if not that he would be totally cancelled today. Xitter (pronounced Shitter) is supposed to be his newspaper where he can trumpet his far-right BS, but we have the ability to push back now which didn’t exist in Henry Ford’s time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Henry Ford also wrote a series of books titled "the international jew" in which he spew antisemitic shit and crazy conspiracy theories. He had his own newspaper to publish anti-semitic ideology. High ranking German Nazis including Hitler considered him an inspiration. Saying he was "just the Elon Musk of his time" falls on short on how fiercly Ford was anti-semitic, how he systematicall contributed to the ideological framework for anti-semitism and spread it among the Americans and the people in the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Perhaps he was more vocal, but not more hateful? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago Most certainly not. He was both a key actor internationally and in the US, to stir anti-semitism. The US was on a good trajectory to become fascist themselves too, if it wasn't for the war with Japan starting. The reluctance to intervene as well as to take jewish refugees. Tens of thousands of the millions of jews that were killed by Nazi Germany could have been saved if the US didnt impose strict limits on immigration as the result of lacking public support. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0000011110110111i@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago And Elon Musk would probably be exactly the same if not that he would be totally cancelled today. Xitter (pronounced Shitter) is supposed to be his newspaper where he can trumpet his far-right BS, but we have the ability to push back now which didn’t exist in Henry Ford’s time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Perhaps he was more vocal, but not more hateful? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago Most certainly not. He was both a key actor internationally and in the US, to stir anti-semitism. The US was on a good trajectory to become fascist themselves too, if it wasn't for the war with Japan starting. The reluctance to intervene as well as to take jewish refugees. Tens of thousands of the millions of jews that were killed by Nazi Germany could have been saved if the US didnt impose strict limits on immigration as the result of lacking public support. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago Most certainly not. He was both a key actor internationally and in the US, to stir anti-semitism. The US was on a good trajectory to become fascist themselves too, if it wasn't for the war with Japan starting. The reluctance to intervene as well as to take jewish refugees. Tens of thousands of the millions of jews that were killed by Nazi Germany could have been saved if the US didnt impose strict limits on immigration as the result of lacking public support. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0000011110110111i@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago And Elon Musk would probably be exactly the same if not that he would be totally cancelled today. Xitter (pronounced Shitter) is supposed to be his newspaper where he can trumpet his far-right BS, but we have the ability to push back now which didn’t exist in Henry Ford’s time. permalink fedilink source parent
