▲ 491 ▼ Ketchup alignment (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by spicytuna62@lemmy.world to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 104 comments fedilink hide all child comments I'm a chaotic neutral myself. It almost, but not quite appalls my wife.
[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (4 children) Ketchup is a disgusting condiment loaded with sugar. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fidodo@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (4 children) There are so many no sugar added ketchups. They're not hard to find. Also, how do you feel about BBQ sauce? They're also loaded with sugar, moreso than ketchup. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] poppy@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yes my favorite ketchups only have the original sugars from the vegetables used. And usually have some richer spices and more prominent vinegar. permalink fedilink source parent [–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) BBQ basically is ketchup with brown sugar and other smokey flavor added in permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The only time I really use bbq sauce is as a marinade before something goes on the grill, never really as a dip. The only time I use ketchup is as an ingredient/thin glaze in/on meatloaf before the oven. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There are so many no sugar added ketchups. They're not hard to find. Unfortunately those usually contain artificial sweeteners and still taste way too sweet. I finally managed to find one local (to the Netherlands) brand that sells ketchup without added sugars or sweeteners. The brand was actually started by a person with diabetes who wanted to cut out all sugar from her diet. It’s so much better than the standard Heinz stuff. Much more savory, you can actually taste the tomatoes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fidodo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It of course depends on the market. In California they are not hard to find. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I tend to avoid sweet stuff in general-- I don't dislike it but I'm not often in the mood for it. I eat ketchup sometimes but I more often put sriracha on fries. BBQ sauce that isn't disgustingly sweet is difficult to find, and I'd love more ketchup options to be widely available. There's a reason heinz had 57 varieties dammit! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fidodo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Everyone has their personal preferences, that's totally fine. I just think saying ketchup is disgusting because it commonly has some sugar in it is a ridiculous statement that ignores a ton of cuisine. Even ketchup that has sugar in it doesn't have nearly as much as a lot of other sweet and savory foods so I don't understand why it gets singled out so much. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lugal@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) TIL there is sugar in ketchup permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, there's a bit of ketchup in the sugar How could you not know that ketchup is sugar?!? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago I was half jokingly wondering why the top comment was a truism permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure if the sugar part is meant to be evidence on how disgusting it is but I like sugar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sugar bad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Right. It's a bit like saying chocolate bad. I'm sure it's not some health food, but in moderation seems fine. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bluewing@lemm.ee -29 points 2 years ago (4 children) Ketchup is fine for small children and the infirm. But that's it. Everyone else should be using mustard, (preferably with horseradish in it), or some other stronger flavored condiment. Be the adult you are! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 46 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nothing more adult than worrying your choice of condiment might be perceived as immature permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do I need to add "slashies" to a joke here also? The point of the silly statement was to show the, to use your word, fun immaturity of the this post. And yes, it can be fun to argue about silly things even as an adult - see any sports discussion or conversation about the weather, (slashies). But evidently, there are a lot of people here who don't understand the humor of such a broad and silly statement without a road map. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) There is exactly zero indication that your statement is intended as humorous instead of pretentious. "Slashies" as you call them are a thing because tone and nuance don’t convey well over text. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The opening line of "The very young and the infirm" is very much over the top and the words chosen are not common use words in daily speech. Understanding the nuance and tone of the written word would seem to be lacking. People used to be able to do that as a general rule. It explains a lot about modern education and the general tone of discourse in modern societies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) What a silly statement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That was the point........ permalink fedilink source parent [–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Dang. I run prefer mustard, mayo, and ketchup, in that order, with my fries. Horseradish on fries? Never tried it. With Prime rib? Sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago There is little wrong with ketchup, (I am not a big fan of all the sweeteners they put in it these days), but the same old same old gets boring after awhile. A good spicy German mustard is a great choice for your fries. Open your mind and palate to new things. To butcher a quote from Andrew Zimmern, "Always try the eyeballs, you never know how good they might taste" permalink fedilink source parent [+] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Mustard is gross af too, though. Horseradish is biological warfare, not edible food, and I will die on that hill. I’m not a condiment person, even adding salt and pepper “to taste” is something I very very rarely do. Condiments are a waste of cooking skill and good ingredients. If I use anything it’s probably hot sauce or like sweet chilli or something actually transformative, or the food is barely edible without it (which I try to avoid). Everything else can go straight in the trash. I like the actual taste of my food, no need to cover it up and make it taste exactly the same way every single time via condiments. Be an adult and experience subtle flavor variety. Ofc maybe you need condiments because you are a shit cook. That’s ok too, but it doesn’t make you more adult than someone who prefers things differently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I think every Michelin Star chef and restaurant on the planet would disagree with you. But hey, you do you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org -1 points 2 years ago You make a good point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (4 children) There are so many no sugar added ketchups. They're not hard to find. Also, how do you feel about BBQ sauce? They're also loaded with sugar, moreso than ketchup. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] poppy@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yes my favorite ketchups only have the original sugars from the vegetables used. And usually have some richer spices and more prominent vinegar. permalink fedilink source parent [–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) BBQ basically is ketchup with brown sugar and other smokey flavor added in permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The only time I really use bbq sauce is as a marinade before something goes on the grill, never really as a dip. The only time I use ketchup is as an ingredient/thin glaze in/on meatloaf before the oven. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There are so many no sugar added ketchups. They're not hard to find. Unfortunately those usually contain artificial sweeteners and still taste way too sweet. I finally managed to find one local (to the Netherlands) brand that sells ketchup without added sugars or sweeteners. The brand was actually started by a person with diabetes who wanted to cut out all sugar from her diet. It’s so much better than the standard Heinz stuff. Much more savory, you can actually taste the tomatoes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fidodo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It of course depends on the market. In California they are not hard to find. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I tend to avoid sweet stuff in general-- I don't dislike it but I'm not often in the mood for it. I eat ketchup sometimes but I more often put sriracha on fries. BBQ sauce that isn't disgustingly sweet is difficult to find, and I'd love more ketchup options to be widely available. There's a reason heinz had 57 varieties dammit! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fidodo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Everyone has their personal preferences, that's totally fine. I just think saying ketchup is disgusting because it commonly has some sugar in it is a ridiculous statement that ignores a ton of cuisine. Even ketchup that has sugar in it doesn't have nearly as much as a lot of other sweet and savory foods so I don't understand why it gets singled out so much. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] poppy@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yes my favorite ketchups only have the original sugars from the vegetables used. And usually have some richer spices and more prominent vinegar. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) BBQ basically is ketchup with brown sugar and other smokey flavor added in permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The only time I really use bbq sauce is as a marinade before something goes on the grill, never really as a dip. The only time I use ketchup is as an ingredient/thin glaze in/on meatloaf before the oven. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The only time I really use bbq sauce is as a marinade before something goes on the grill, never really as a dip. The only time I use ketchup is as an ingredient/thin glaze in/on meatloaf before the oven. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There are so many no sugar added ketchups. They're not hard to find. Unfortunately those usually contain artificial sweeteners and still taste way too sweet. I finally managed to find one local (to the Netherlands) brand that sells ketchup without added sugars or sweeteners. The brand was actually started by a person with diabetes who wanted to cut out all sugar from her diet. It’s so much better than the standard Heinz stuff. Much more savory, you can actually taste the tomatoes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fidodo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It of course depends on the market. In California they are not hard to find. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It of course depends on the market. In California they are not hard to find. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I tend to avoid sweet stuff in general-- I don't dislike it but I'm not often in the mood for it. I eat ketchup sometimes but I more often put sriracha on fries. BBQ sauce that isn't disgustingly sweet is difficult to find, and I'd love more ketchup options to be widely available. There's a reason heinz had 57 varieties dammit! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fidodo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Everyone has their personal preferences, that's totally fine. I just think saying ketchup is disgusting because it commonly has some sugar in it is a ridiculous statement that ignores a ton of cuisine. Even ketchup that has sugar in it doesn't have nearly as much as a lot of other sweet and savory foods so I don't understand why it gets singled out so much. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Everyone has their personal preferences, that's totally fine. I just think saying ketchup is disgusting because it commonly has some sugar in it is a ridiculous statement that ignores a ton of cuisine. Even ketchup that has sugar in it doesn't have nearly as much as a lot of other sweet and savory foods so I don't understand why it gets singled out so much. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) TIL there is sugar in ketchup permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, there's a bit of ketchup in the sugar How could you not know that ketchup is sugar?!? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago I was half jokingly wondering why the top comment was a truism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, there's a bit of ketchup in the sugar How could you not know that ketchup is sugar?!? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago I was half jokingly wondering why the top comment was a truism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago I was half jokingly wondering why the top comment was a truism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure if the sugar part is meant to be evidence on how disgusting it is but I like sugar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sugar bad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Right. It's a bit like saying chocolate bad. I'm sure it's not some health food, but in moderation seems fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sugar bad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Right. It's a bit like saying chocolate bad. I'm sure it's not some health food, but in moderation seems fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Right. It's a bit like saying chocolate bad. I'm sure it's not some health food, but in moderation seems fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bluewing@lemm.ee -29 points 2 years ago (4 children) Ketchup is fine for small children and the infirm. But that's it. Everyone else should be using mustard, (preferably with horseradish in it), or some other stronger flavored condiment. Be the adult you are! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 46 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nothing more adult than worrying your choice of condiment might be perceived as immature permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do I need to add "slashies" to a joke here also? The point of the silly statement was to show the, to use your word, fun immaturity of the this post. And yes, it can be fun to argue about silly things even as an adult - see any sports discussion or conversation about the weather, (slashies). But evidently, there are a lot of people here who don't understand the humor of such a broad and silly statement without a road map. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) There is exactly zero indication that your statement is intended as humorous instead of pretentious. "Slashies" as you call them are a thing because tone and nuance don’t convey well over text. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The opening line of "The very young and the infirm" is very much over the top and the words chosen are not common use words in daily speech. Understanding the nuance and tone of the written word would seem to be lacking. People used to be able to do that as a general rule. It explains a lot about modern education and the general tone of discourse in modern societies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) What a silly statement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That was the point........ permalink fedilink source parent [–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Dang. I run prefer mustard, mayo, and ketchup, in that order, with my fries. Horseradish on fries? Never tried it. With Prime rib? Sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago There is little wrong with ketchup, (I am not a big fan of all the sweeteners they put in it these days), but the same old same old gets boring after awhile. A good spicy German mustard is a great choice for your fries. Open your mind and palate to new things. To butcher a quote from Andrew Zimmern, "Always try the eyeballs, you never know how good they might taste" permalink fedilink source parent [+] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Mustard is gross af too, though. Horseradish is biological warfare, not edible food, and I will die on that hill. I’m not a condiment person, even adding salt and pepper “to taste” is something I very very rarely do. Condiments are a waste of cooking skill and good ingredients. If I use anything it’s probably hot sauce or like sweet chilli or something actually transformative, or the food is barely edible without it (which I try to avoid). Everything else can go straight in the trash. I like the actual taste of my food, no need to cover it up and make it taste exactly the same way every single time via condiments. Be an adult and experience subtle flavor variety. Ofc maybe you need condiments because you are a shit cook. That’s ok too, but it doesn’t make you more adult than someone who prefers things differently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I think every Michelin Star chef and restaurant on the planet would disagree with you. But hey, you do you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org -1 points 2 years ago You make a good point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 46 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nothing more adult than worrying your choice of condiment might be perceived as immature permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do I need to add "slashies" to a joke here also? The point of the silly statement was to show the, to use your word, fun immaturity of the this post. And yes, it can be fun to argue about silly things even as an adult - see any sports discussion or conversation about the weather, (slashies). But evidently, there are a lot of people here who don't understand the humor of such a broad and silly statement without a road map. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) There is exactly zero indication that your statement is intended as humorous instead of pretentious. "Slashies" as you call them are a thing because tone and nuance don’t convey well over text. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The opening line of "The very young and the infirm" is very much over the top and the words chosen are not common use words in daily speech. Understanding the nuance and tone of the written word would seem to be lacking. People used to be able to do that as a general rule. It explains a lot about modern education and the general tone of discourse in modern societies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do I need to add "slashies" to a joke here also? The point of the silly statement was to show the, to use your word, fun immaturity of the this post. And yes, it can be fun to argue about silly things even as an adult - see any sports discussion or conversation about the weather, (slashies). But evidently, there are a lot of people here who don't understand the humor of such a broad and silly statement without a road map. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) There is exactly zero indication that your statement is intended as humorous instead of pretentious. "Slashies" as you call them are a thing because tone and nuance don’t convey well over text. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The opening line of "The very young and the infirm" is very much over the top and the words chosen are not common use words in daily speech. Understanding the nuance and tone of the written word would seem to be lacking. People used to be able to do that as a general rule. It explains a lot about modern education and the general tone of discourse in modern societies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) There is exactly zero indication that your statement is intended as humorous instead of pretentious. "Slashies" as you call them are a thing because tone and nuance don’t convey well over text. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The opening line of "The very young and the infirm" is very much over the top and the words chosen are not common use words in daily speech. Understanding the nuance and tone of the written word would seem to be lacking. People used to be able to do that as a general rule. It explains a lot about modern education and the general tone of discourse in modern societies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The opening line of "The very young and the infirm" is very much over the top and the words chosen are not common use words in daily speech. Understanding the nuance and tone of the written word would seem to be lacking. People used to be able to do that as a general rule. It explains a lot about modern education and the general tone of discourse in modern societies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) What a silly statement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That was the point........ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Dang. I run prefer mustard, mayo, and ketchup, in that order, with my fries. Horseradish on fries? Never tried it. With Prime rib? Sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago There is little wrong with ketchup, (I am not a big fan of all the sweeteners they put in it these days), but the same old same old gets boring after awhile. A good spicy German mustard is a great choice for your fries. Open your mind and palate to new things. To butcher a quote from Andrew Zimmern, "Always try the eyeballs, you never know how good they might taste" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago There is little wrong with ketchup, (I am not a big fan of all the sweeteners they put in it these days), but the same old same old gets boring after awhile. A good spicy German mustard is a great choice for your fries. Open your mind and palate to new things. To butcher a quote from Andrew Zimmern, "Always try the eyeballs, you never know how good they might taste" permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Mustard is gross af too, though. Horseradish is biological warfare, not edible food, and I will die on that hill. I’m not a condiment person, even adding salt and pepper “to taste” is something I very very rarely do. Condiments are a waste of cooking skill and good ingredients. If I use anything it’s probably hot sauce or like sweet chilli or something actually transformative, or the food is barely edible without it (which I try to avoid). Everything else can go straight in the trash. I like the actual taste of my food, no need to cover it up and make it taste exactly the same way every single time via condiments. Be an adult and experience subtle flavor variety. Ofc maybe you need condiments because you are a shit cook. That’s ok too, but it doesn’t make you more adult than someone who prefers things differently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I think every Michelin Star chef and restaurant on the planet would disagree with you. But hey, you do you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org -1 points 2 years ago You make a good point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I think every Michelin Star chef and restaurant on the planet would disagree with you. But hey, you do you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org -1 points 2 years ago You make a good point. permalink fedilink source parent
