1038
A reminder to all you far left and far right nutjobs that think Joe Biden has done nothing significant in office (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
618 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 227 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Are people on the left saying this?

The 2 things I've really not liked about biden is he

  1. Continued trump era boarder policies significantly harming refugees.

  2. Has doggedly supported israel in their current genocide campaign.

Other wise his admin has ranged from pretty good to business as usual. 1000% better than trump, but also with some glaring problems.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 8 child comments
    •
  • [–] 68 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Are people on the left saying this?

    A few. A small, but very loud group online. They're larger on the Fediverse than most places.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [+] -61 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They’re called “Blue MAGA”.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 49 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Usually, that's the accusation leveled towards "Vote Blue no matter who" types, not the far-left types who deny that Democrats have ever done anything that has improved anyone's life.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Oh, I meant the people saying all the stuff that SpongeBob is showing Patrick.

    Blue MAGA are vociferous that Biden is the second coming of Jesus Christ.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I have never, ever come across this person, but I will totally vote blue no matter who when the opposition is today's average Republican

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And that’s why they’ll never change

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I vote in the primaries too

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    democrats went to court to defend their right to ignore primary voters.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The DNC completely restructured their convention process after this happened. Sanders and his supporters fought hard for this change, at least try to pay attention:

    Adoption of superdelegate reform (2018)

    On August 25, 2018, the DNC approved a plan to reduce the influence of superdelegates by barring them from voting on the first ballot at the Democratic National Convention, allowing them to vote only in a contested convention (i.e., if a Democratic National Convention did not choose the nominee on the first ballot, because no candidate received an absolute majority (more than 50%) of the pledged delegates elected from the outcome of primaries and caucuses). This does not preclude superdelegates from publicly endorsing a candidate of their choosing before the convention.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Adoption of superdelegate reform (2018)

    this has nothing to do with how they structured the primary, favoring hilary with party resources. they chose hilary long before the first superdelegate vote.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    democrats went to court to defend their right to ignore primary voters

    this has nothing to do with how they structured the primary

    ?! If you don't want to be condescended to, don't set yourself up for it. Develop a cogent argument my man

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's... not a thing. I can walk outside and find a MAGA, I would have to troll online depths to find anyone that thinks Biden is great.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    2 is huge, but you forgot that he busted the railroad union which directly led to ohio burning down

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
    •
  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago

    I'm no fan of Biden (though I did and will vote for him) but that's not what happened. He did not bust the unions, the 12 unions still exist. He broke a strike, which is the intended purpose of the Railway Labor Act of 1926.

    The law he put before congress to force a resolution to the three year negotiation deadlock would have guaranteed the workers 7 days of sick leave per year (they wanted 15). It passed the House but the Senate knocked it down to 1 day, with a 14% immediate pay increase and an additional 25% over the next five years.

    Biden continued negotiate for the unions to get the sick days. They don't all have them yet, but at this point 61% of the workers do have 4 short notice paid sick days with the option to trade three personal days for an additional 3 short notice sick days. Negotiations are still happening, the Biden administration is still part of them.

    The Ohio derailment disaster was not a result of worker error (or lack of sick days) but lack of maintenance regulations, which was not something that was being negotiated at that time.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_railroad_labor_dispute

    https://www.reuters.com/business/white-house-renews-pressure-railroads-over-paid-sick-leave-2023-02-09/

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/most-unionized-us-rail-workers-now-have-new-sick-leave-2023-06-05/#:~:text=Under%20the%20agreement%20effective%20Aug,use%20as%20paid%20sick%20time.&text=Our%20Standards%3A%20The%20Thomson%20Reuters%20Trust%20Principles

    Beau of the Fifth Column, Let's Talk About Biden, the Rails and Sick days... Youtube link

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    2 is kinda irrelevant in the context of the election though. If you think Biden supports them too much wait until you see the alternative. Trump doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy to say “Palestinians need our help”. He strikes me as the guy who’ll say “See? This is why I’m writing a new Muslim ban”

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Continued trump era boarder policies significantly harming refugees.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't his Administration forced to continue those by SCotUS?

    Has doggedly supported israel in their current genocide campaign.

    Agree, but that looks like it's starting to turn as well.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
    •
  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Agree, but that looks like it's starting to turn as well

    Honest question, where have you seen this?

    All I've seen is talk about possibly maybe telling them to stop genociding. Other than that it's business as usual. The whole siding with Israel at the ICJ trial isn't a great look

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Honest question, where have you seen this?

    In international politics, there are very few unscripted statements. What is said is an important reflection of a country's concerns, and behind-the-scenes demands. There is a distinct contrast between statements from before the current crisis and statements since, especially compared to the unconditional bootlicking normally offered by the US State Department to Israel.

    We are at a point where support for the current course is wavering, and there is the possibility of change in our Israel policy, depending on how the opinions of the electorate continue to develop on the issue.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Remember when Kamalla Harris said during her speach at COP28 something about the US putting pressure on Israel and then not a week later the US vetoed the resolution for a Cease Fire at the UN Security Council?!

    It's wasn't even that long ago that this happenned.

    There really is no reason at all to believe that the Biden Administration has finally given up on their practice of trying to sway voters their way by nothing more than "talking the talk" whilst completelly refusing to "walk the walk" (at times, quite the contrary)

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't his Administration forced to continue those by SCotUS?

    Some, but he's also put some effort of his own on being seen as 'tough on the border' due to increased migration.

    A stupid decision, but a predictable one considering the hand-wringing our population goes through every fucking time there's a bump in scary furriners coming in to this land which our ancestors were born i-oh, wait

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago*

    I think the DNC finally discovered Lemmy. There's been a huge uptick of VBNMW and "how dare anyone question Biden" posts. Voters can be critical of Biden and the Dems and still vote for them to "stop Trump". Even though Trump is merely a symptom of the crappy system we have.

    Edit: also, calling the far left nut jobs isn't going to win any of them over.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent