▲ 1038 ▼ A reminder to all you far left and far right nutjobs that think Joe Biden has done nothing significant in office (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by RedditEnjoyer@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 618 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 186 points 2 years ago (4 children) "Stopped second Cold War and arguably saved democracy in Europe" Let's not get ahead of ourselves on either count. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (1 child) yeah and im a big supporter (well relative to what I see on the internets) but obviously all of it is not attributable to him. All the same there have been more things that actually improve my quality of life over what any other president has done in my lifetime and all in one term with an adversarial congress. I loved obama but man he wasted a nice majority trying to play fair with a bunch of known cheaters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, Biden has the 'bipartisanship' disease too. But I certainly won't pretend that he's done nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago well you have to compromise to some degree but man obamas first term he was bending over backwards to get their input and sign off and they still fought everything he did tooth and nail. He figured it out his second term but had lost the majority at that point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago Agreed, not sure a proxy war against Russia is stopping a cold war. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Also it's been proven presidential policy has little to do with economic outcome and unemployment rates. Honestly any president other than Trump probably would've caused an economic upturn due to the unpredictability of Trump. Also the pandemic being SOMEWHAT over has more to do with unemployment than Biden. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* Fewer people looking for work because they realized that working a minimum job is worse than not having a job also lowers unemployment. And a lot of old people finally retiring. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kepabar@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago The fed playing with interest rates certainly has and has had a direct and measurable impact on the current economic situation. You can argue that the fed is independent from the president, but the fact is they generally do whatever the president suggests. permalink fedilink source parent [+] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) He's actually done the exact opposite when he directly refused to supply Ukraine with long range missiles early in the conflict, when they had the manpower and logistics to attack Russia directly. But instead he doomed Ukraine to a war of attrition what they can't possibly hope to win without a serious import of soldiers (which isn't happening). Biden handed Ukraine to Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) hindsight is 20-20, and even then i’m not sure that would have been the right choice back then we there were a lot of people legitimately very worried that russia would use nukes if they felt “cheated”… international diplomacy is a tricky shit show of a game. who knows what would have happened permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Enemy boots on your land is the only time I can think to legitimately use a nuclear weapon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Does Russia have a history of acting only under responsible and legitimate circumstances? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Never implied they did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Mm, misread you then, sorry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (1 child) yeah and im a big supporter (well relative to what I see on the internets) but obviously all of it is not attributable to him. All the same there have been more things that actually improve my quality of life over what any other president has done in my lifetime and all in one term with an adversarial congress. I loved obama but man he wasted a nice majority trying to play fair with a bunch of known cheaters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, Biden has the 'bipartisanship' disease too. But I certainly won't pretend that he's done nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago well you have to compromise to some degree but man obamas first term he was bending over backwards to get their input and sign off and they still fought everything he did tooth and nail. He figured it out his second term but had lost the majority at that point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, Biden has the 'bipartisanship' disease too. But I certainly won't pretend that he's done nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago well you have to compromise to some degree but man obamas first term he was bending over backwards to get their input and sign off and they still fought everything he did tooth and nail. He figured it out his second term but had lost the majority at that point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago well you have to compromise to some degree but man obamas first term he was bending over backwards to get their input and sign off and they still fought everything he did tooth and nail. He figured it out his second term but had lost the majority at that point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago Agreed, not sure a proxy war against Russia is stopping a cold war. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Also it's been proven presidential policy has little to do with economic outcome and unemployment rates. Honestly any president other than Trump probably would've caused an economic upturn due to the unpredictability of Trump. Also the pandemic being SOMEWHAT over has more to do with unemployment than Biden. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* Fewer people looking for work because they realized that working a minimum job is worse than not having a job also lowers unemployment. And a lot of old people finally retiring. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kepabar@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago The fed playing with interest rates certainly has and has had a direct and measurable impact on the current economic situation. You can argue that the fed is independent from the president, but the fact is they generally do whatever the president suggests. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snooggums@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* Fewer people looking for work because they realized that working a minimum job is worse than not having a job also lowers unemployment. And a lot of old people finally retiring. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago The fed playing with interest rates certainly has and has had a direct and measurable impact on the current economic situation. You can argue that the fed is independent from the president, but the fact is they generally do whatever the president suggests. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) He's actually done the exact opposite when he directly refused to supply Ukraine with long range missiles early in the conflict, when they had the manpower and logistics to attack Russia directly. But instead he doomed Ukraine to a war of attrition what they can't possibly hope to win without a serious import of soldiers (which isn't happening). Biden handed Ukraine to Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) hindsight is 20-20, and even then i’m not sure that would have been the right choice back then we there were a lot of people legitimately very worried that russia would use nukes if they felt “cheated”… international diplomacy is a tricky shit show of a game. who knows what would have happened permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Enemy boots on your land is the only time I can think to legitimately use a nuclear weapon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Does Russia have a history of acting only under responsible and legitimate circumstances? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Never implied they did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Mm, misread you then, sorry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) hindsight is 20-20, and even then i’m not sure that would have been the right choice back then we there were a lot of people legitimately very worried that russia would use nukes if they felt “cheated”… international diplomacy is a tricky shit show of a game. who knows what would have happened permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Enemy boots on your land is the only time I can think to legitimately use a nuclear weapon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Does Russia have a history of acting only under responsible and legitimate circumstances? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Never implied they did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Mm, misread you then, sorry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Enemy boots on your land is the only time I can think to legitimately use a nuclear weapon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Does Russia have a history of acting only under responsible and legitimate circumstances? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Never implied they did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Mm, misread you then, sorry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Does Russia have a history of acting only under responsible and legitimate circumstances? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Never implied they did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Mm, misread you then, sorry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Never implied they did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Mm, misread you then, sorry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Mm, misread you then, sorry. permalink fedilink source parent
