▲ 876 ▼ Voting is changing the Oil to keep the engine running (lemmy.ml) submitted 2 years ago by Grayox@lemmy.ml to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 517 comments fedilink hide all child comments While Education and Organizing is building the parts for a new engine the rest of the year.
[–] Seraph@kbin.social 90 points 2 years ago (2 children) Similarly, if the DNC hadn't absolutely SCREWED my boy Bernie, we also wouldn't be in this complete shit-hole. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/14/16640082/donna-brazile-warren-bernie-sanders-democratic-primary-rigged permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (2 children) A socialist will never be elected. When anyone gets close, the entire capitalist world immediately forget their differences and unite to make sure it doesn’t happen. Happened to Sanders. If you want read a more heinous example, it’s Jeremy Corbyn. A genuinely good man . https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/23/unprecedented-leak-exposes-inner-workings-of-uk-labour-party permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hotchip@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Demsocs (really, socdems) still believe in capitalism. They're not quite Debs levels of socialist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] honey_im_meat_grinding@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It's probably more accurate to state that they believe capitalism and markets to be two separate things, for example a market economy where every business is a multi-stakeholder worker-consumer coop and workers and "consumers" alike can consent to what happens at work, would be at odds with private ownership given that everyone is an owner with decision making power (collective/socialized ownership). This is pretty much what Corbyn and the Labour party a few years back were aiming for - they were going to experiment with cooperatives by having the government encourage and fund them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hotchip@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, the Richard wolf revolution. Would be nice. permalink fedilink source parent [–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Not yet permalink fedilink source parent [–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago A socialist will never be elected. Christ, they've been calling every democrat a socialist for 20 years now and it's chased half of the democrats rightward so far that it's a problem for a lot of democrats to keep voting for that permalink fedilink source parent [+] Sharpiemarker@startrek.website -22 points 2 years ago* (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago Uhhhh no. He didn't pull any votes because he wasn't even on the ticket during the general election and he endorsed Hillary. Also, considering how unpopular Hillary was she should have picked Bernie as her VP. Picking anti union, milked toste Tim Kain was a joke. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago What kind of pretzel knot do you have to tie your brain into to think that? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (2 children) A socialist will never be elected. When anyone gets close, the entire capitalist world immediately forget their differences and unite to make sure it doesn’t happen. Happened to Sanders. If you want read a more heinous example, it’s Jeremy Corbyn. A genuinely good man . https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/23/unprecedented-leak-exposes-inner-workings-of-uk-labour-party permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hotchip@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Demsocs (really, socdems) still believe in capitalism. They're not quite Debs levels of socialist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] honey_im_meat_grinding@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It's probably more accurate to state that they believe capitalism and markets to be two separate things, for example a market economy where every business is a multi-stakeholder worker-consumer coop and workers and "consumers" alike can consent to what happens at work, would be at odds with private ownership given that everyone is an owner with decision making power (collective/socialized ownership). This is pretty much what Corbyn and the Labour party a few years back were aiming for - they were going to experiment with cooperatives by having the government encourage and fund them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hotchip@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, the Richard wolf revolution. Would be nice. permalink fedilink source parent [–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Not yet permalink fedilink source parent [–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago A socialist will never be elected. Christ, they've been calling every democrat a socialist for 20 years now and it's chased half of the democrats rightward so far that it's a problem for a lot of democrats to keep voting for that permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hotchip@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Demsocs (really, socdems) still believe in capitalism. They're not quite Debs levels of socialist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] honey_im_meat_grinding@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It's probably more accurate to state that they believe capitalism and markets to be two separate things, for example a market economy where every business is a multi-stakeholder worker-consumer coop and workers and "consumers" alike can consent to what happens at work, would be at odds with private ownership given that everyone is an owner with decision making power (collective/socialized ownership). This is pretty much what Corbyn and the Labour party a few years back were aiming for - they were going to experiment with cooperatives by having the government encourage and fund them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hotchip@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, the Richard wolf revolution. Would be nice. permalink fedilink source parent [–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Not yet permalink fedilink source parent
[–] honey_im_meat_grinding@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) It's probably more accurate to state that they believe capitalism and markets to be two separate things, for example a market economy where every business is a multi-stakeholder worker-consumer coop and workers and "consumers" alike can consent to what happens at work, would be at odds with private ownership given that everyone is an owner with decision making power (collective/socialized ownership). This is pretty much what Corbyn and the Labour party a few years back were aiming for - they were going to experiment with cooperatives by having the government encourage and fund them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hotchip@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, the Richard wolf revolution. Would be nice. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hotchip@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, the Richard wolf revolution. Would be nice. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago A socialist will never be elected. Christ, they've been calling every democrat a socialist for 20 years now and it's chased half of the democrats rightward so far that it's a problem for a lot of democrats to keep voting for that permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Sharpiemarker@startrek.website -22 points 2 years ago* (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago Uhhhh no. He didn't pull any votes because he wasn't even on the ticket during the general election and he endorsed Hillary. Also, considering how unpopular Hillary was she should have picked Bernie as her VP. Picking anti union, milked toste Tim Kain was a joke. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago What kind of pretzel knot do you have to tie your brain into to think that? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago Uhhhh no. He didn't pull any votes because he wasn't even on the ticket during the general election and he endorsed Hillary. Also, considering how unpopular Hillary was she should have picked Bernie as her VP. Picking anti union, milked toste Tim Kain was a joke. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago What kind of pretzel knot do you have to tie your brain into to think that? permalink fedilink source parent