▲ 75 ▼ Possible explanation for jank in Android as opposed to iOS (20 millisecond core ramp on ARM/Android vs 50 microseconds on Apple/iOS) (social.treehouse.systems) submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by octalfudge@lemmy.world to c/apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world 27 comments fedilink hide all child comments More useful context: https://social.treehouse.systems/@chadmed/110874563649736382
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) ART what? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] huginn@feddit.it 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) ART is the equivalent of a JVM. It doesn't implement all the apis, the compiled bytecode differs, it's optimized for mobile but that doesn't make it not a JVM. That's why the NDK exists: so you can build and run C++ code natively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Python VM is Java by your logic. If you don't understand IT, you shouldn't really talk on IT topics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] huginn@feddit.it 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I can use the exact same apache jars on my Android project and my Java server. That's not Python. That's very clearly java code. The implementation of the contract is different but that's not the same as not being Java. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) You can't use the same JARs in runtime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] huginn@feddit.it 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You absolutely can pull the same jars into server and android projects. Sometimes you need a different one for Android to avoid NoClassDefFoundErrors but you're totally able to grab a jar and stick it directly into both sides. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago The hell are you even talking about? You can't even load a JAR file on Android. My god... permalink fedilink source parent [–] hark@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Thou art wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] huginn@feddit.it 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) ART is the equivalent of a JVM. It doesn't implement all the apis, the compiled bytecode differs, it's optimized for mobile but that doesn't make it not a JVM. That's why the NDK exists: so you can build and run C++ code natively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Python VM is Java by your logic. If you don't understand IT, you shouldn't really talk on IT topics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] huginn@feddit.it 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I can use the exact same apache jars on my Android project and my Java server. That's not Python. That's very clearly java code. The implementation of the contract is different but that's not the same as not being Java. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) You can't use the same JARs in runtime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] huginn@feddit.it 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You absolutely can pull the same jars into server and android projects. Sometimes you need a different one for Android to avoid NoClassDefFoundErrors but you're totally able to grab a jar and stick it directly into both sides. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago The hell are you even talking about? You can't even load a JAR file on Android. My god... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Python VM is Java by your logic. If you don't understand IT, you shouldn't really talk on IT topics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] huginn@feddit.it 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I can use the exact same apache jars on my Android project and my Java server. That's not Python. That's very clearly java code. The implementation of the contract is different but that's not the same as not being Java. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) You can't use the same JARs in runtime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] huginn@feddit.it 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You absolutely can pull the same jars into server and android projects. Sometimes you need a different one for Android to avoid NoClassDefFoundErrors but you're totally able to grab a jar and stick it directly into both sides. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago The hell are you even talking about? You can't even load a JAR file on Android. My god... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] huginn@feddit.it 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I can use the exact same apache jars on my Android project and my Java server. That's not Python. That's very clearly java code. The implementation of the contract is different but that's not the same as not being Java. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) You can't use the same JARs in runtime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] huginn@feddit.it 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You absolutely can pull the same jars into server and android projects. Sometimes you need a different one for Android to avoid NoClassDefFoundErrors but you're totally able to grab a jar and stick it directly into both sides. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago The hell are you even talking about? You can't even load a JAR file on Android. My god... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) You can't use the same JARs in runtime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] huginn@feddit.it 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You absolutely can pull the same jars into server and android projects. Sometimes you need a different one for Android to avoid NoClassDefFoundErrors but you're totally able to grab a jar and stick it directly into both sides. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago The hell are you even talking about? You can't even load a JAR file on Android. My god... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] huginn@feddit.it 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You absolutely can pull the same jars into server and android projects. Sometimes you need a different one for Android to avoid NoClassDefFoundErrors but you're totally able to grab a jar and stick it directly into both sides. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago The hell are you even talking about? You can't even load a JAR file on Android. My god... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago The hell are you even talking about? You can't even load a JAR file on Android. My god... permalink fedilink source parent